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    The first-gen Cadillac CTS ('02-'05) was offered with a Getrag 260 transmission. Think they have the same configuration? If they're the same as they were 25 years ago, they must have engineered and manufactured a gem back then.



    #2
    i wonder if anyone who buys the CTS actually knows its RWD. And the fact that a manual is offered these days in a caddy utterly amazes me and makes me happy.

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      #3
      Originally posted by TwoJ's View Post
      The first-gen Cadillac CTS ('02-'05) was offered with a Getrag 260 transmission. Think they have the same configuration? If they're the same as they were 25 years ago, they must have engineered and manufactured a gem back then.

      A local shop (German Transaxle) said that the 260 is one of the best boxes that Getrag ever built. It was also used in the 1996-2004 Holden Commodore. But according to a thread on Unofficialbmw, the bellhousing may be different.

      Here's something interesting after doing a little research on this:
      When the CTS first hit the market, it was offered with a 5L40-E automatic transmission or a 5 speed Getrag 260 manual transmission. In 2005, the Getrag 260 manual transmission was replaced with an Aisin AY-6 six-speed manual, which provided a better fit for the CTS.
      So, is it possible that this box might be able to bolt up to an M20/M50/S50 and be a viable six-speed option for an E30?

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        im listening....

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          #5
          The getrag 240 was used in Opels FYI.

          That would be awesome if that six speed bolted up to an e30!
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            #6
            Somebody please get to the bottom of this:)

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              #7
              I doubt that the GM V6 had the same hole pattern, but with a custom bell housing it might be an interesting 6speed mod.
              Does anyone have any more info on this?

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                #8
                the driveshaft output is going to be different too.

                M35 Getrag 260
                3.830
                2.190
                1.400
                1.000
                0.810

                M35 Getrag 260 (2003-2004 Cadillac CTS)
                3.570
                2.040
                1.340
                1.000
                0.820

                BMW E30
                3.83:1
                2.20:1
                1.40:1
                1.00:1
                0.81:1

                only the 2003-2004 cts is different. first and second gear is slightly longer, that would be nice. i kind of like where 3rd is in the e30 though.
                Last edited by Kershaw; 12-13-2011, 09:27 AM.
                AWD > RWD

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                  #9
                  Starter pocket is on the wrong side.

                  EDIT: Also GM has used Getrag for some time, even in the FWD world. The shop car - 92 GP with 3.4DOHC has a G284 manual swap in it :)
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                    #10
                    who knows and who cares...
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by iidesu View Post
                      who knows and who cares...
                      fo real?
                      i take it you must have an auto (gay unless your 5toes) or your balls are non-existent.
                      your saying you wouldn't want a 6 speed e30

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                        #12
                        We will be pulling the engine and trans to do heads, cam, timing cover, headers, and a clutch on my friends GTO starting this weekend. Same as a Commadore, correct?

                        Is so, i will take pics and measurements if wanted to.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by der affe View Post
                          We will be pulling the engine and trans to do heads, cam, timing cover, headers, and a clutch on my friends GTO starting this weekend. Same as a Commadore, correct?

                          Is so, i will take pics and measurements if wanted to.
                          It needs to be the 3.2l Opel motor, the LSx family has a different bell housing pattern.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pantless Spency View Post
                            fo real?
                            i take it you must have an auto (gay unless your 5toes) or your balls are non-existent.
                            your saying you wouldn't want a 6 speed e30
                            Not really necessary on any of the popular swap motors until you get to the S54. Engines that don't have a big top-end to take advantage of will likely be slower due to the extra shifting. There is a reason lots of fast drag cars use a powerglide, 1 shift.

                            More gears are oriented toward high-reving power plants, not engines with a healthy torque curve.

                            Hence a 7-spd DST in the new M3 due to 3600lbs and 295lb-ft of TQ.

                            Keep trolling away little one.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pantless Spency View Post
                              your saying you wouldn't want a 6 speed e30
                              you must have missed something big...

                              because the g260 is a 5 speed gearbox.
                              AWD > RWD

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