Would an F20C fit into an E30?

[FredK]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=288082

He doesn't have any pictures of his bellhousing adapter. He is probably the most knowledgeable r3v member that has 6 posts.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I still sorta want to do a K24/K20 longitudinal swap. There's a guy on r3v that did one with a full tubular front subframe/control arms and it's just so trick.

Wat? Guy on r3v? Wat?

[FredK]

I still sorta want to do a K24/K20 longitudinal swap. There's a guy on r3v that did one with a full tubular front subframe/control arms and it's just so trick.

[Cletonius]

Fantastic!

[willworkfore30s]

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3861999630.html

[FredK]

oh my!

[shameson]

I love that cluster

[drumad]

oh my panties

[catuned]

It's been done and here in CALI. In a e30 and in a 2002.
Were developing a easy to install kit.



And better video


And in the E30

[VinniE30]

^ That's right
I couldn't care less about the e36. We're talking about the e30 here.
Watch it and look how the engine sits in there. It's nothing like the other one.

[FredK]

You mean the Best Motoring vid with the E36 that had to lift the back of the hood 5 inches to clear the F20C? That's not my definition of fitting fine.

He meant this video:

Here's a video I found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3z7SVAB61A

The engine looks tilted up to clear the rack, but the hood closes.

[Emre]

Looks like the guy in the video above made it fit fine..

You mean the Best Motoring vid with the E36 that had to lift the back of the hood 5 inches to clear the F20C? That's not my definition of fitting fine.

and it's not even super far back in the engine bay with modded firewall like the one I posted earlier. And I didin't see any evidence for a dry sump either.

I'm sure he wouldn't have moved his firewall if he didn't have to.

Look, this is just silly. I'm probably the only guy on his board who has approached a reputable shop and spent time, energy, and money to seriously investigate an F20C swap into an E30. If you spend literally 5 minutes looking under the hood of an S2000 and taking some basic measurements, you'll see what the problem is.

Look at our 190E 2.3-16 build thread to get an idea of how I approach a project. I'm not someone who's afraid to take on an unusual build, but I don't half-ass things. Cutting out subframes, moving firewalls, getting rid of swaybars, and moving steering racks just to stick 470 pounds of Honda motor into an E30 doesn't make sense.

[mcr_driver]

Found the pics of my buddy Jeffs 02,

That is very sexy...Someone needs to put a NWS tag on this thread now

[VinniE30]

No problem, Fred. I was really determined to make this swap work and had even made a deal to buy a wrecked S2000. It was a real disappointment when we realized it simply wasn't going to fit.

One project I'd love to do is build a poor-man's S42B20 using the Euro E46 318 diesel crank, S50 rods/pistons, and Euro S50 ITB's. Finish with Schrick or Dbilas cams and standalone. It's been done and power output is nice.

Looks like the guy in the video above made it fit fine.. and it's not even super far back in the engine bay with modded firewall like the one I posted earlier. And I didin't see any evidence for a dry sump either.

[Emre]

And thanks, Emre, for all of the details you provided. Very useful! :up:

No problem, Fred. I was really determined to make this swap work and had even made a deal to buy a wrecked S2000. It was a real disappointment when we realized it simply wasn't going to fit.

One project I'd love to do is build a poor-man's S42B20 using the Euro E46 318 diesel crank, S50 rods/pistons, and Euro S50 ITB's. Finish with Schrick or Dbilas cams and standalone. It's been done and power output is nice.