Hey r3v - what other careers might I be suited for?

[Cabriolet]

Not having a degree will limit your salary, even with your solid experience.

^if you dont have this.


then you have to do this:

Gay Porn.

[nando]

I'm not even sure what the main industries in Portland are.

meth labs. :p

[Pac1373]

I think it is hilarious that you guys all actually believe you cant get a great top end paying job in a field where you have extensive experience because you don't have a "degree".

totally fucking priceless.

has any one bothered trying? because I know I will throw a degree requirement out the window when I interview the right guy.

fact, I will hire the best guy for the job, even if his schooling stopped at grade 11.

I hire intelligence, common sense, and performance and not a diploma saying you have been edu-mucated.

10 times out of 10.

[N2MYE30]

Dont get me wrong Pac, as I was expecting this type of response, you have a very valid point and I agree with you. I am not saying that without a degree one will never get by. There are many factors involved with getting ahead in a career but in a lot of corporate companies, a degree is preferred. Some careers do no require a BS or better. When 50 applicants come knocking on the door of HR, who do you think is going to weeded out? Some companies do not have time to interview 50 people.

Now, if one was looking to apply to a smaller firm where anybody/everbody can shake the CEOs hand and put their best foot forward, there is a good chance that one can prove that experience wins out.

[InuFaye]

Degrees show that people can finish shit that they start, and that you take things in your life seriously.

[Turf1600]

Degrees show that people can finish shit that they start, and that you take things in your life seriously.

So does working for the same company for 6 years while getting promoted twice and nearly tripling my starting salary.

For those who asked, I'm officially a philosophy major but I'm in and out of school because work comes first.

[rwh11385]

So does working for the same company for 6 years while getting promoted twice and nearly tripling my starting salary.

For those who asked, I'm officially a philosophy major but I'm in and out of school because work comes first.

That's great, but there's going to be a LOT of doors that aren't going to be open without a degree, regardless of your experience or Pac's disregard for such requirements. It's nearly impossible to be the "right guy" in the interview if you aren't invited for one and the company only wants to talk to grads.

If you are asking for career advice on a forum, you might want to consider what people are saying, not just be deaf to it completely and look for confirmation of what you were already believing.

That said, if you can work with people and are good with data, maybe logistics or warehouse management. They might not be a huge stickler for a degree if the people you are managing might not have one either.

[InuFaye]

So does working for the same company for 6 years while getting promoted twice and nearly tripling my starting salary.

For those who asked, I'm officially a philosophy major but I'm in and out of school because work comes first.

No not entirely.

I would hire someone without a college degree but he is going to be earning significantly less than someone with a college degree.

[Turf1600]

That's great, but there's going to be a LOT of doors that aren't going to be open without a degree, regardless of your experience or Pac's disregard for such requirements. It's nearly impossible to be the "right guy" in the interview if you aren't invited for one and the company only wants to talk to grads.

If you are asking for career advice on a forum, you might want to consider what people are saying, not just be deaf to it completely and look for confirmation of what you were already believing.

That said, if you can work with people and are good with data, maybe logistics or warehouse management. They might not be a huge stickler for a degree if the people you are managing might not have one either.

I'm not deaf to it. I know a degree would help. I just think it's fundamentally stupid in my area of employment. At this point in my life I don't think it's worth the amount of time that I'd have to invest. I'm cool with my salary now. I'd prefer to spend this part of my life traveling and doing whatever than working full time and going to school full time. I'll go back to school when the time is right - but that's not any time soon. I don't want to spend the rest of my 20s trying to make as much money as possible only to discover later that money isn't what I wanted in the first place. I also don't think that a piece of paper is the measure of a man - nor does a degree guarantee anything about anyone.

I understand that with my perspective comes the likelihood that I won't see eye to eye with employers that aren't like minded and I'm ok with that.

If you are asking for career advice on a forum, you might want to consider what people are saying, not just be deaf to it completely and look for confirmation of what you were already believing.

I didn't ask for input on whether or not I should get a degree - I asked for possible occupations that match my skill set and experience.

[rwh11385]

I didn't ask for input on whether or not I should get a degree - I asked for possible occupations that match my skill set and experience.

You have a salary desired that does not match to your skill set (including education attained) for most career possibilities. Asking for opportunities to make that much with a HS diploma and your desired work environment but NOT wanting to finish your degree, or putting up with the awful annoyance of being told that you should, is pretty narrow of a mindset.

If you want to make that much, you can always go blue collar. But MANY white collar jobs look for a degree, any degree at least for some, as a baseline requirement. Simply hoping and dreaming that you are going to find what you are looking for without completing a degree is optimistic at best... but hey, if you are so sure of yourself why are you asking on a forum?

I also don't think that a piece of paper is the measure of a man - nor does a degree guarantee anything about anyone.

I'm pretty sure it's not up to you how you are evaluated by potential employers, but what THEY think is important.

[Turf1600]

You have a salary desired that does not match to your skill set (including education attained) for most career possibilities. Asking for opportunities to make that much with a HS diploma and your desired work environment but NOT wanting to finish your degree, or even told that you should, is pretty narrow of a mindset.

If you want to make that much, you can always go blue collar. But MANY white collar jobs look for a degree, any degree at least for some, as a baseline requirement. Simply hoping and dreaming that you are going to find what you are looking for without completing a degree is optimistic at best... but hey, if you are so sure of yourself why are you asking on a forum?

Optimistic? Perhaps. But I'm very good at what I do. I hold a pretty high profile position at the busiest ER in the US. I'm just looking to move to a similar position elsewhere. If I don't find anything in Portland I'll stay here. No biggie. It's not like I'm unemployed but have a sense of entitlement. I just want a lateral move to an area that I actually want to live in. I'm open to a bit of a demotion even. I'm confident that I can move up wherever I go.

As for asking on a forum - why not? You never know what kind of leads/info you're going to kick up. This is a diverse forum with some pretty sharp people. I'm not discounting anyone's opinion either. I appreciate your advice.

I'm pretty sure it's not up to you how you are evaluated by potential employers, but what THEY think is important.

You're correct. However, the position has to be a good fit all around. I want to work for someone who I'm not going to clash with. Obviously I'm not going to be a good fit for someone that's hung up on credentials and disregards experience. They can hire who they want. If it's me - cool. If not then I don't want to work there.