indy car vs F1

[m73m95]

she's probably right, F1 transmissions don't last very long. but indy cars certainly aren't faster

Huh?

F1 gear boxes must last a minimum of 5 events.... That's 4 per year 20 race season.



For the OP... its not even a contest. Back in the 90's, indy cars and F1 cars were very similar. That's why a bunch of F1 drivers came over to Indy. The cars were the same, but there was more money to earn from advertising allowed in the US vs Europe.

Now days, F1 cars are WILDLY more advanced than indy cars. From engines that turn 18,000 rpm (To Indy's governed 10,000). Much higher HP in F1 (est. 800-900 to 600-700 in Indy), lower weight, more use of composite materials, much more downforce in F1, DRS, KERS.... Its not even something you can compare really. They are so different, its apples to oranges. Indy car should compare to ALMS.

[pandaboo911]

Huh?

F1 gear boxes must last a minimum of 5 events.... That's 4 per year 20 race season.

that's my point, they probably can't make it 500 miles lol

[b*saint]

Indy cars are faster for top speed. I think there is road courses for Indy. F1 isn't about top speed as much as corner handling. They have too much downforce to have a faster top speed, hence the F Wing. A used F1 engine is rated only good for 700 km.

[m73m95]

that's my point, they probably can't make it 500 miles lol

Avg F1 race is 250 miles.... x 5 races, that's 1250 miles...

There is also a huge difference between oval tracks where the transmission is left in high gear all day, vs a road course where a trans can shift more than 100 times per single lap.....

Indy cars are faster for top speed. I think there is road courses for Indy. F1 isn't about top speed as much as corner handling. They have too much downforce to have a faster top speed, hence the F Wing. A used F1 engine is rated only good for 700 km.

That's not true either. An F1 team can not use more than 8 engines per season, including qualifying and practice. They also cannot change engines during a weekend. If they do, its a 5 place penalty on the starting grid.



You guys need to watch more F1

[10Toes]

that's my point, they probably can't make it 500 miles lol

Add up all the practice, qualifying and the race and it's probably almost over 500 miles for each event.

[m73m95]

OH OH OH....

F1 cars explode!!

[T Verdier]

Fed-ex champ cars? Lol I used to like those, didn't understand why IRL existed.

[spike68]

I bet if an F1 car changed its setup for more top speed, then it would blow away the Indy car.
But if an indy car tried to change it setup for twisty turns, then it would epicly fail. To much weight yo.

[gwb72tii]

I bet if an F1 car changed its setup for more top speed, then it would blow away the Indy car.
But if an indy car tried to change it setup for twisty turns, then it would epicly fail. To much weight yo.

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i'd wager that if you put both cars on the same tracks, oval or road, F1 will go faster

[e30rapidic]

Ask Rubens

[m73m95]

Ask Rubens

I found several articles with Rubens being interviewed. He refuses to answer questions about comparing F1 cars to indy cars.


Me thinks that's because anything he has to say would be an embarrassment to Indy cars :D

[Charlie]

F1 can turn both right and left.

11 of their 16 races are on road/street circuits.

You really might want to take 15 seconds on google before making a dumb statement, just sayin'.

As for peformance differences? Not sure how you'd even bother to compare them. F1 is based around teams with 400 million dollar yearly budgets building bespoke chassis whereas Indycar is based around a spec Dallara chassis built to a 500k cost cap with an engine lease program limited to 1.25 million for an entire season.

Based apon comments from Rubens Barrichello and Pippa Mann, who have driven both the current generation of F1 cars and the current Dallara Indycar, the indy car is "harder" to drive, owing to substantially less downforce and a lack of power steering. Rubens also expressed shock at the much different engine setup, be it a 10k limited turbocharged V6 that actually produces low end torque coupled to no traction control, vs a much higher reving and less torquey F1 V8.

-Charlie

[dannyyisntt]

Where are pictures.

[Thizzelle]

the max rpm on the F1 engine is limited, the engineers want it to rev around the 22000 rpm range. All I have to say is you put a F1 car against a Indy car in a road race and the F1 would probably lap that shit ass Indy car. They are so gay and now are trying to look more and more like a F1 car, why? Because F1 knows wtf they are doing.
And about the transmissions there's no compare, F1 they do alot of gear changing as in Indy it is alot less, machines tend to last alot longer when you change them less (ie gears). And yes a trans will last more than 500 miles as explained above. The rules and regs. are very different, F1 qualifying is like a game as where Indy you just drive for time. In F1 there is a 107% rule don't know about Indy but with all the cars the same I guess you don't need it. Not much imagination in Indy as the cars have to be pretty much the same compared to F1 where they have guide lines to stay between.

[gp.plus]

Your comparing apples to oranges, as stated above in great detail, Indy cars are essentially a spec car, whereas f1 teams are given a formula to build within and then left to their own devices to create a car that is competitive while fitting the formula.