F*ck your paypal fees

[der affe]

Honestly if you are getting a deal, which 99% of the time it is, buck up and pay the tiny fee, don't be a whiny bitch, "oh no! I'm paying 2$ fee on a product that's already heavily discounted, boo hoo."

I still stand by my statement. If the seller states that the buyer must pay the fees, you have the option of not buying the item. Noone is holding a gun to your head to buy that mtech wheel, therefore you can either agree to the sellerse terms or buy from someone else.

Let's face facts, this is r3v, unless it is a new part being sold by someone like blunt or even
your products GG, you will have beat the seller up a little on the price. Once your price is set by market value, you are limited on your options for pricing the ítem to include fees and a haggle percentage in your initial price. This is why i quoted the above statement.

Lastly, did you really need to create a thread about this? You are just whining and not making a point or presenting any arguement. What are you going to start a thread about next? "My woman's skinny jeans chaffe my special parts, f*ck skin irritation"

[navid41691]

Lastly, did you really need to create a thread about this? You are just whining and not making a point or presenting any arguement. What are you going to start a thread about next? "My woman's skinny jeans chaffe my special parts, f*ck skin irritation"

yeah, I thought that was the point of the off topic lounge.

To me, asking your buyer to pay YOUR paypal fee is like my barber asking me to pay a portion of his rent/utilities/insurance/whatever else is helping him stay in business.

Also, why should I pay YOU for a service we're both benefiting from and that you're relying on?

You're right, I could choose to not buy from a seller asking for the paypal fees, but that's not the point. Have you ever walked into a place of business, pulled out your american express card to pay for an item, and were told they were going to charge you an additional 4% on your total to cover their fees? No. it's the price the merchant has to pay to do business.

And no, I use lotion so I don't have to worry about skin irritation.

[priapism]

I've gotta say, I used PayPal to purchase a $1500 bike off Craigslist from across the country. I paid seller's fees because he was looking for a local transaction. The seller kept all of his promises and there were no issues, but PayPal assured me beforehand that if anything went wrong with the transaction they would guarantee a refund.

That was some good peace of mind.

I've heard too many horror stories to ever believe Paypal would be helpful in that kind of situation

[RUFFLZ]

I've heard too many horror stories to ever believe Paypal would be helpful in that kind of situation

I've been scammed twice through sellers using paypal, however their service has came in clutch when it comes to raising claims and being reimbursed.
no issues here.

Paypal A+++++ would use again :up:

[jaywood]

Paypal fees should be the seller's problem. The buyer isn't getting charged sending a payment...it's the seller getting charged receiving the payment.

Paypal fees should be included in price!

[CrusherCurtis]

Have you ever walked into a place of business, pulled out your american express card to pay for an item, and were told they were going to charge you an additional 4% on your total to cover their fees? No. it's the price the merchant has to pay to do business.

Some places definitely charge more if paying by card.

[der affe]

Not buying from the seller is the point. If you do not like the terms of the sale, do not buy from the seller, barber, grocery store, whatever. If you are willing to pay the full asking price of an item, i see no reason to ask the buyer to pay the fees. It you are paying less then the asking price, i don't see a problem with them asking you to cover the fees. Again, if you don't like that, then don't proceed with the deal.

Paypal is a benefit to.seller on that it gives you faster payment then mailing out a money order oro cashier's check. It also benefits the buyer in giving them fraud protection and presuming everything goes right, you will get your ítem in a more rápid fashion because the payment was recieved in a timely fashion insted of waiting on the USPS to deliver it.
Paypal also makes it easier to make transactions on a national or international basis. It benefits both not just the seller.

See, look an actual discussion with points and counter points, not just f*ck this thing that makes me unhappy.

[rturbo 930]

I try to always buck up and pay the fee myself, even if I'm not asked...

This. It's usually next to nothing anyhow.

[navid41691]

It benefits both not just the seller.

I know this, I said it in my previous post.


So if you're going to look at it that way, how about this. If a seller is not happy with Paypal's fee policy, they should not use Paypal. And instead, wait a week or two to get paid by another (free) method.

[giantkeeper]

It's the sellers responsibility to price the item accordingly - that means including the paypal fees into the cost.

Also - I believe it's against the terms of service - at least it is for ebay. So there is that.

This, anyone asking the buyer to pay the fee simply sucks at selling. And it is against policy to ask for them, so now they suck at comprehension too.

I do not buy from those that advertise they want the fee paid, nor do I if they ask me afterwards. All deal breakers, as is the request to pay as a gift. People trying to buck the system for a few extra $ will certainly have no issue taking your money and not following through.

[WhyNot]

Why do sellers request that their buyers pay their PayPal fees? It's the price you pay for conveniently getting paid within milliseconds from anywhere in the world, suck it up.

i love buyers with this attitude.
it makes easy for guys like me to buy stuff.
the seller doesnt want to deal with buyers with attitudes so you lose out on something that is 5% more?
props for your mad skills.
the way i see it, if the guy wants $100 cash picked up, he should get $100 out of the deal.
if there is shipping cost, buyer pays it. same with paypal.
whats even weirder is you are from jersey [is that near new jersey] and people from around the world know new jersey as the birthplace of refined class. were you born there or did you move there from someplace less civilized?

[navid41691]

i love buyers with this attitude.
it makes easy for guys like me to buy stuff.
the seller doesnt want to deal with buyers with attitudes so you lose out on something that is 5% more?
props for your mad skills.
the way i see it, if the guy wants $100 cash picked up, he should get $100 out of the deal.
if there is shipping cost, buyer pays it. same with paypal.
whats even weirder is you are from jersey [is that near new jersey] and people from around the world know new jersey as the birthplace of refined class. were you born there or did you move there from someplace less civilized?

I'm sorry, honestly, I am having the most difficult time trying to figure out what the hell you're trying to say. Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell. You seem like you've never done business outside of the interwebz. If you're dealing with cash then yes YOU ARE CORRECT, he should get his asking price. Step out into the real world and see how business is done. All I'm saying is- there's a reason why PayPal CHARGES THE SELLER THE FEE and not the buyer and if you're asking your buyer to pay your fee you're just being greedy.

And yeah Jersey is New Jersey (you seem to have trouble comprehending that for some reason). If you want to compare class, take a look at our moderator we have here telling me (a person he's never spoken to in his life) to eat shit and stop whining. Considering the things that have been said to me in this very thread, I think I'm being quite respectful.

[navid41691]

And you're really talking about new jersey when you're from "Dreamland"??

[der affe]

Hey, that's ME! Always classy!

Like giantkeeper said, if you don't like paying the fees, don't do business with that person requesting you payn them. Why does that seem to be such a hard concept for you?

[navid41691]

Lol are you the moderator of fucking PayPal or just R3v? I said that's not my point and I honestly don't give a fuck about what you're saying and I don't need to conform to your concept. Moral of the story and the point of me creating this thread = There's a reason why paypal charges the seller and not the buyer the fee and the people who don't understand why are the greedy uneducated people without any understanding of how economics or business works. You don't have to tell me again that I don't have to buy from those sellers who request the fee... you've said that enough times and I know this already, thanks.

Feel free to close the thread.

Der affe, I don't care that you're a moderator, you're a fucking moron. excuse my lack of class. seems to be the theme around here.