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  • varg
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    The late '90s/early '00s models. IMO the perfect ZX-9R is the 02/03 which came with better brakes, but it's easy to fix that (I ditched the 6 piston calipers for 4 piston bandit calipers on my ZRX, it's just as easy on the ZX9), less easy to make the engine improvements. The earlier 90s models are noticeably heavier. I say old because I didn't know if Kawasaki has made one since then. I guess it would be a poor choice if you're tall, it was perfect for me though at only 5'9". I do enjoy a smaller sportbike but once I got my hands on bigger ones like the ZX-9 I realized that despite the weight and perhaps lower ultimate performance vs a 600 supersport or other ultra-light performance bike, the engines and ergonomics are far superior for the street.

    I haven't paid much attention to modern offerings and it has served me well because when I saw the mistakes made on Kawasaki's latest retro standard lineup (including the boondoggle of detuning the Z900 engine for the Z900RS, claiming it's for low end torque, then seeing that the dyno results for both contradict that) I scoffed and returned to my stodgy opinion that non sport bikes peaked in the 2000s.

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  • Panici
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    Originally posted by varg
    Good lord, a naked ducati as a touring/long rides bike? Talk about motorcycle masochism. If you want a bike that does sport and touring well, without being ugly or a 650lb+ pig of a bike like a concours or similar, the old ZX-9R is fairly heavy (just a little lighter than the noble standard that hasn't been matched since, the ZRX), but it does sport and touring both pretty well. It's more relaxed in riding position than a literbike but more sporting than most sport touring bikes.
    It certainly does have a lot of character, for better or for worse. 😅
    Interesting about the ZX-9R, when you say old, what year range are you talking?

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  • varg
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    Originally posted by Panici
    It's on my bucket list to get something better suited for long rides and touring. Thought my '00 Monster 900 would fit the bill
    Good lord, a naked ducati as a touring/long rides bike? Talk about motorcycle masochism. If you want a bike that does sport and touring well, without being ugly or a 650lb+ pig of a bike like a concours or similar, the old ZX-9R is fairly heavy (just a little lighter than the noble standard that hasn't been matched since, the ZRX), but it does sport and touring both pretty well. It's more relaxed in riding position than a literbike but more sporting than most sport touring bikes.

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  • MR E30 325is
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    Originally posted by Panici
    Yeah the R6 makes some good power, but you have to work for it. I have a couple of 2nd gens, they make enough torque to be streetable, but I've heard the 3rd gen is absolutely gutless down low. What year was yours?

    And a 600 doesn't have the same instant shove that a bigger torquey motor has on tap, which you found out pretty quick. 😆

    Stay safe out there brother!
    I owned an 03, but I rode a friends 06, and another friends 09, way back in the day.

    You bet. You too.

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  • Panici
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    Originally posted by MR E30 325is
    I rode it yesterday and started to try to twist that wrist a bit more during the ride, and holy hell. My old R6 made 50 ft*lb of torque at like 12,000 rpm. This thing makes 105 ft*lb at like 5,500 rpms. It almost ripped me off of the bike. Super glad that it has wheelie control as well, or I would have been in trouble. Haha
    Yeah the R6 makes some good power, but you have to work for it. I have a couple of 2nd gens, they make enough torque to be streetable, but I've heard the 3rd gen is absolutely gutless down low. What year was yours?

    And a 600 doesn't have the same instant shove that a bigger torquey motor has on tap, which you found out pretty quick. 😆

    Stay safe out there brother!

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