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    Duh, hell yes there will be
    42.42%
    14
    Yes, no matter what happens
    30.30%
    10
    No, Californians have matured beyond that...
    27.27%
    9
    BEERTECH

    #2
    LA sucks.

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      #3
      well, if there is a riot, i need a new pair of everything.

      April 29th, 1992...
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        #4
        ...there was a riot on the streets tell me where were you...

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          #5
          You's such a racist rob.

          Yea, he killed 4 innocent people execution style and started the most notorious and violent gang in the history of the United states, and is responsible for the deaths of thousands - he wrote a children's book..A Children's book!

          Fry the fucker.

          -Charlie
          Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
          '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
          FYYFF

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            #6
            'Scuse the ignorance, but who is this "Tookie" character? Perked my interest....
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              #7
              convicted murderer, founder of the "crips"
              BEERTECH

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                #8


                Every time I see Governor S. I think it is a joke.

                Schwarzenegger Denies Clemency for Williams

                Dec 12, 7:05 PM (ET)

                By DAVID KRAVETS


                SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger refused to block the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams, rejecting the notion that the founder of the murderous Crips gang had atoned for his crimes and found redemption on death row.

                With a federal court refusing to grant a reprieve, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin Prison early Tuesday for murdering four people during two 1979 holdups.

                Williams' case became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades. It set off a nationwide debate over the possibility of redemption on death row, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.

                But Schwarzenegger suggested Monday that Williams' supposed change of heart was not genuine, noting that the inmate had not owned up to his crimes or shown any real remorse for the countless killings committed by the Crips.

                "Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote less than 12 hours before the execution. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."

                Williams' supporters were disappointed with the governor's refusal to commute the death sentence to life in prison without parole.

                "Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption."

                Williams stood to become the 12th person executed in California since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977.

                He was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.



                Just before the governor announced his decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence." The appeals court then declined to reconsider and lawyers filed an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court.

                The last California governor to grant clemency was Ronald Reagan, who spared a mentally infirm killer in 1967. Schwarzenegger - a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals - rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.

                In denying clemency to Williams, Schwarzenegger said that the evidence of his guilt was "strong and compelling," and he dismissed suggestions that the trial was unfair.

                Schwarzenegger also pointed out the brutality of the crimes, noting that Williams allegedly said about one of the killings, "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." According to the governor's account, Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes.

                In addition, the governor noted that Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison" to a list of figures that included the black militant George Jackson - "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems."

                Schwarzenegger also noted that there is "little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture."

                Williams and a friend founded the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971. Authorities say it is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.

                Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M A S H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.

                "If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"

                The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison.

                A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.

                At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.

                "Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Iain
                  'Scuse the ignorance, but who is this "Tookie" character? Perked my interest....
                  A poor, innocent picked on black man who just happened to head up and run the "Crips", the most violent and dangerous gang in california and the united states. This poor, misunderstood soul shot and killed 4 people execution style in a convienence store in a crack fueled rage.



                  Since he's been rotting in jail for 25 years, he's written a childrens book about gangs and Jamie Fox made a movie about him. Rather than looking up to real role models and success stories in their communities, Black media in the US have decided to hold this piece of shit up as someone to be heralded.

                  Fuck him.

                  -Charlie
                  Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                  '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                  FYYFF

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                    #10
                    Look on the bright side. If there are riots, maybe Cali will get lucky like Texas and Louisiana did. Licensed gun owners will be expected to protect their own communities and 'shoot to kill' looters on sight.

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                      #11
                      Burn the fucker. Lethal injection is too nice for scum like that.
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                        #12
                        and then the whole nation will have to pay for those who failed to prepare, and gun owners/users will be branded as paranoid militants by the mainstream media.
                        BEERTECH

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rob
                          and then the whole nation will have to pay for those who failed to prepare, and gun owners/users will be branded as paranoid militants by the mainstream media.
                          I think it'd be worth it... when else would you get to have fun like that?

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                            #14
                            Korean store owners vs 'urban' rioters: I think the Koreans will be be victorious, by far.

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                              #15
                              Tick tock for Tookie.
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