Study reveals rocketing sense of entitlement on U.S. campuses.

[evandael]

Joshh you ignored my question.

[vladimirhtg]

I'm in college and I'm above average.

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[InuFaye]

Cant wait until these little pricks get into the real world and everyone shits all over them.

[Cletonius]

Thank you for that....about 12-15yrs ago when I was still teaching Karate, we would have small tournaments at our school to prepare those who wanted to compete(read: work hard to win) in the larger regional or national tourneys. The top (3) in any division placed and the rest were 'finishers'. One parent said to me it's unfair that everyone isn't a winner and that everyone should get a trophy. Fortunately for them I had too much respect for the school and didn't tell them what I thought of their attitude or their kid. These kids were about 8-10yrs old at that time. They are now college grads....


Sad, but true, Riding coattails has become the American way.

Entitlement isn't just for college campuses anymore. What about all those little kids throwing fits in stores that get what they want?

Agreed. As a parent it's nice to see my kid get a participation trophy, but all that's achieved is a watering down of the prize. When I was in sports/scouting we only got recognized for placing in the top 3. We've told our kids the difference between a participation award and placing for something and they seem to understand that they have to work for things.

Sadly, the parent who thinks everyone is a winner is commonplace now. Interacting with other parents is a scary affair. Nobody can hold a conversation without compulsively checking their phone, they're all reasonably overweight and talk incessantly about getting back into shape, and they all seem to want to do as little as possible.

Riding coattails isn't even happening, more like riding the ego. This wouldn't be so bad if people weren't becoming less intelligent along the way. It makes sense that telling a poor performer they're doing well impedes their success; you've told them that not being able to accomplish ______ is more than OK - that it's a good job. I predict an overabundance of qualified burger flippers in our future.

[uofom3]

Cant wait until these little pricks get into the real world and everyone shits all over them.

And then the majority will figure it out after getting crushed for a few years.

I have a lot less of a problem with these guys having bravado and the sense they are "entitled" to do well than the people who are "entitled" to live off the Government.

Also, an undergrad degree is damn near turning into a H.S. diploma in terms of necessity if you want to make a solid wage over time.

Josh you sound a little bitter about these edumacated folks... Why so salty?

[chadthestampede]

fresh as fuck

awesome

[nrubenstein]

And then the majority will figure it out after getting crushed for a few years.

I have a lot less of a problem with these guys having bravado and the sense they are "entitled" to do well than the people who are "entitled" to live off the Government.

Also, an undergrad degree is damn near turning into a H.S. diploma in terms of necessity if you want to make a solid wage over time.

Josh you sound a little bitter about these edumacated folks... Why so salty?

The problem is that a high school degree is no longer a good indicator of basic arithmetic and reading skills. Therefore, you have to require a college degree and so on and so forth. Credential inflation is getting completely stupid and it's a scam.

[MikeDE]

Entitlement isn't just for college campuses anymore. What about all those little kids throwing fits in stores that get what they want?

Agreed. As a parent it's nice to see my kid get a participation trophy, but all that's achieved is a watering down of the prize. When I was in sports/scouting we only got recognized for placing in the top 3. We've told our kids the difference between a participation award and placing for something and they seem to understand that they have to work for things.

Sadly, the parent who thinks everyone is a winner is commonplace now. Interacting with other parents is a scary affair. Nobody can hold a conversation without compulsively checking their phone, they're all reasonably overweight and talk incessantly about getting back into shape, and they all seem to want to do as little as possible.

Riding coattails isn't even happening, more like riding the ego. This wouldn't be so bad if people weren't becoming less intelligent along the way. It makes sense that telling a poor performer they're doing well impedes their success; you've told them that not being able to accomplish ______ is more than OK - that it's a good job. I predict an overabundance of qualified burger flippers in our future.

I agree with all of it. My wife thinks i'm anti-social because in general I don't like going out and hanging out with other parents/people. Truth is(not only do I get fatigued after about 30minutes of trying to stay with a conversation in German, unless i'm drinking)that i'm tired of just that^. It's bullshit and I end up ignoring the talk, i'd rather stay home.

[mbonder]

The problem is that a high school degree is no longer a good indicator of basic arithmetic and reading skills. Therefore, you have to require a college degree and so on and so forth. Credential inflation is getting completely stupid and it's a scam.

This is a really good point. The reality is that there is this push for everyone to finish high school, which in certain areas of the country means that people are pushed through the system without actually learning much. Because of this, the high school diploma isn't really worth what it once was, it isn't an indicator of knowledge of the basic skills needed for employment in many different fields.

Society today has also created this reality as many everyday situations have become easier to do, therefore people do not need to have the knowledge they once needed to survive in society. Take communication. Before email, text messaging, and cell phones, the main line of communication between people of different communities was through written letter. This forced people to have to know how to read and write with a level of proficiency. This doesn't exist in much of society today. If you read a letter from a common person at the turn of the 1900's, it will show a level of literacy that was much higher than many common high school students today (not saying that applies to everyone, because many people didn't go to high school back then).

Because of the loss of a quality education at the high school level, the undergraduate college experience has become the important barometer for measuring baseline intelligence. Because of this, everyone now needs to attend college, forcing the belief on the average young person that college is a right of passage into adulthood, not something that is reserved for those that work hard and achieve success. This situation has also become a reality because of the increased prosperity of the average person. In the past people couldn't go to college because their parents couldn't afford it; for many, that isn't an issue now, especially with the existence of loan programs that make it easy for many people to attend college. Due to this, college enrollment is no longer a huge achievement for many, instead something that young students feel entitled to.

Finally, prosperity has made many forget the struggles of the past. Many young people today simply do not understand what past generations had to accomplish to get where they are today. Parents shield their children from these hardships feeling that they will be better off without knowing about poverty, discrimination, war, and unemployment. Children feel entitled because their parents have made them this way. Young people need to change their attitudes, but they are only sons and daughters of their parents and much of what they think about their futures is a direct result of what their parents told them.

In the end, many will find reality difficult to deal with. Young people find unemployment rates that some measure as high as 30% in some portions of the country. Eventually, the harsh reality will see some people fail and eventually, the entitlement will fade as the young generations realize they shouldn't be handed everything.

[uofom3]

Entitlement isn't just for college campuses anymore. What about all those little kids throwing fits in stores that get what they want?

Agreed. As a parent it's nice to see my kid get a participation trophy, but all that's achieved is a watering down of the prize. When I was in sports/scouting we only got recognized for placing in the top 3. We've told our kids the difference between a participation award and placing for something and they seem to understand that they have to work for things.

Sadly, the parent who thinks everyone is a winner is commonplace now. Interacting with other parents is a scary affair. Nobody can hold a conversation without compulsively checking their phone, they're all reasonably overweight and talk incessantly about getting back into shape, and they all seem to want to do as little as possible.

Riding coattails isn't even happening, more like riding the ego. This wouldn't be so bad if people weren't becoming less intelligent along the way. It makes sense that telling a poor performer they're doing well impedes their success; you've told them that not being able to accomplish ______ is more than OK - that it's a good job. I predict an overabundance of qualified burger flippers in our future.

Agreed. I can't stand listening to these other parents that blow smoke up their kids ass over everything. If their kid successfully breaths air it's like "great job jimmy! You're a winner!" Fuck no he isn't. He's is suffering from a severe case of childhood obesity thanks to your fat ass and he is lagging behind the rest of his class and gets picked last at kickball. These parents are going to fill his head with participation ribbons every day and eventually he's going to run into someone be it a teacher, coach, boss, or just some other kid who will call it like they see it and crush his worthless ass. By the time he hits the working world, he either figures it out or he lives in mom and dads basement. But that's ok, because mom and dad are mildly overweight winos who do the occasional line of coke after the HOA meetings and are equally unhappy with their lives.

If I just described you and your situation and you felt bad, you should. I will not apologize as that would not be in the spirit of my point.

This is why organized athletics, both through school and in other leagues, is so important in my opinion to childhood development - particularly team sports. Why do student athletes tend to do well and why Are companies eager to hire them? They don't have a lot of the same issues that others do.

[Charlie]

joshh, did you attend and successfully complete a 4 year college baccalaureate degree program?

Read his posts, and I'd said the answer would be fairly obvious. I can't even get him to answer a question as to whether he graduated high school or not.

I do find it funny that Josh is posting a link to an article lamenting the increase in unconscious ignorance.

-Charlie

[z31maniac]

Why so salty?

joshh, did you attend and successfully complete a 4 year college baccalaureate degree program?

Joshh you ignored my question.

Hehehehehe, we all know the answer.

[Wergen7]

Lets not forget that school isn't the only place where people gain life knowledge. In fact I'd say I didn't learn a god damn thing about life in school. I learned how to efficiently take a test and i learned how to be a douchbag. All things life related I've learned is through sports (working hard to get anywhere), my parents not being dumb ass parents, and me just doing my own thing and fuckin up shit a bunch. People are too afraid to fail but i think you learn the most by doing things wrong once or twice

[uofom3]

Lets not forget that school isn't the only place where people gain life knowledge. In fact I'd say I didn't learn a god damn thing about life in school. I learned how to efficiently take a test and i learned how to be a douchbag. All things life related I've learned is through sports (working hard to get anywhere), my parents not being dumb ass parents, and me just doing my own thing and fuckin up shit a bunch. People are too afraid to fail but i think you learn the most by doing things wrong once or twice

You got it.

You learn a lot more when you stick your member out there far enough for it to get cut off. But, our system says you shouldn't do that - which is one more way we have gone wrong as a society.

[z31maniac]

Lets not forget that school isn't the only place where people gain life knowledge. In fact I'd say I didn't learn a god damn thing about life in school. I learned how to efficiently take a test and i learned how to be a douchbag. All things life related I've learned is through sports (working hard to get anywhere), my parents not being dumb ass parents, and me just doing my own thing and fuckin up shit a bunch. People are too afraid to fail but i think you learn the most by doing things wrong once or twice

I agree with most of what you said, but if you didn't learn anything about life or people in college, you did it wrong.