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    Tricky situation with a friend, a borrowed bike, and theft.

    Hello faithful R3v advisers and therapists,

    Today I have a shitty story for you about a good friend whom I lent my bike to.

    Last August I brought my Mountain bike (Specialized full suspension with full Shimano Deore and mechanical disc brakes) out to school with me. I used to ride a ton, but despite working in a bike shop I really havent been riding a lot in the past couple years...but I brought the bike out just incase I had an urge to go hit the trails or just fuck around with wheelies and jumps.

    Anyway once I got had the bike here in Lawrence(where I live/go to school) my very good friend whom I totally trusted and hung out with every day asked to borrow the bike while I was at work to do some riding. So I let him borrow it, no problem. He ended up riding it daily for the next few weeks and really fell in love with it. So he said he would like to buy it from me....I was a little bit hesitant to say yes, just because my Step-Father bought it for me and it was about $1,200 when it was new 6ish years ago, and that was a big deal for him to buy for me.

    But after some thought I agreed to sell it to him. He initially said he would be willing to pay $500-$600, but I told him he could have it for $400 since he was a good friend. He gave me $20, and asked if he could pay it off over time. I said deal, as long as I could still use it once in a while. He agreed, we had a deal.

    Fast forward 6-7months.....during the months between August and February I would hang out at his house regularly and see the bike on his front porch, without a lock on it. I told him at least 10 times that he cannot leave the bike (which he had still only given me $20 for) outside in a town that has plenty of theft. He would acknowledge it and put the bike in his house. Also during this time, I took the bike into my shop on my own time and gave it a full top to bottom tune up as it was getting to be in pretty rough shape as a result of his regular use and abuse.

    So about a month ago on a snowday, I was over at his place drinking pretty heavily and asked "hey, wheres my bike?" he replied with a dumb look "what do you mean?" when we looked for it he determined "oh damn, I guess its been stolen". The tone of his voice and demeanor really hinted at it being no suprise and he already knew it was gone but just acted like it was a recent discovery. My girlfriend re-informed me of this whole exhange as I was very drunk and hardly remember it.

    Fast forward to last week....Im at our local bar, where my bike borrowing buddy works, we are all talking about bike and riding, etc....When someone mentions that Sean (bike borrower) is in the market for a new $200-$300 bike. I asked why he would be looking for a new one when he still has mine, to which I was re-informed it was stolen.

    This is when shit gets really fucked up. Hearing that my great mountain bike for which I received $20 for was stolen, during a time period where I was being a nice guy/good friend and letting a buddy use my bike with the agreement that I was going to receive $400 for it. Needless to say this really pissed me off. Later that night while hanging out he tells me "I'm really sorry your bike got stolen, I cannot give you $400, but I can give you $100, again Im real sorry". I didn't say much, I was too pissed off. So then the next day he goes out and spends $200 on a POS garyfisher that is a full alevio hardtail 15.5" to replace my 19" full suspension full deore bike and tells me how "sweet it is and that I can use it whenever i want".


    Today I told him that I expect to be compensated in full ($400) for my bike that was stolen, which he agreed to buy. And that I feel utterly wronged by him, not to mention insulted by him offering me $100 (never gave it to me) and then spending $200 on a POS bike.

    He replied "I need time to figure out how to respond to that".


    WHAT THE FUCK?!

    Yes I know now that I shouldve just taken the bike back when I saw he wasnt locking it up regularly, but everyone has 20/20 hindsight.

    How would R3v go about this scenario? I dont want to alienate myself from a large group of friends based on some bad blood over this bike, but I also want my goddamn money for my fucking bike!



    cliffs:

    Lent friend bike
    Friend wanted to buy bike
    Agreed on $400
    6 months later, friend gets bike stolen
    Offers me $100 consolation (never gave me the $100)
    Goes and spends $200 on a Piece of shit replacement for himself to ride
    Gets seemingly offended when I ask for my $400, and tell him he is in the wrong.


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    Sounds like you need a massage.
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    Who the hell is Vlad?

    #2
    I wish someone would break in and steal my bike, I want a new Wilson.

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      #3
      Dude, your friend probably flipped the bike and pocketed the cash. He took you for a ride.

      This is why you don't do payment plans to ANYONE.
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        #4
        "If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably worth it."

        >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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          #5
          He owes you $400, no question.

          He also sounds like someone who does not relate his actions to responsibility so you are prob not going to see the money.

          Is it just me or are more and more people acting this way?
          Lorin


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            #6
            Money and women are good ways to break up friendships.

            Your either going to lose a friend or look beyond it and learn a valuable life lesson.
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              #7
              ^Exactly, consider it that you spent $380 to find out the guy was a piece of shit, and not really your friend.

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                #8
                OP, you paid 380 for a life lesson; never hang out with that dude again.


                have you trolled craiglist? I'm sure whoever stole it wasn't just looking for a quick ride, they knew the value and probably meant to flip it.


                I'm sorry btw. I've had people steal my shit, inevitably I always want to blame myself but you just have to realize there are some really dumb and really shitty people out there.

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                  #9
                  I'd mushroom stamp him

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                    #10
                    How is this a tricky situation?
                    I Timothy 2:1-2

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                      #11
                      If you believe he's a good friend and don't want to risk collateral friend damage then don't lend him anything again and tactfully/playfully remind him of the incident in the future, especially if you know he's coming across money. If he's worth a damn he'll pay you back when he can.

                      >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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                        #12
                        I've been in a similar situation with 2 friends, 1 of them paid up and we're best friends, the other didn't and is now considered a fuck-ass by me and all of my other friends.

                        Make him pay you the $380 and show him the fucking logic why he should pay up, if he doesn't, tell all of your friends he's an untrustworthy bitch.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GodIse30 View Post
                          I've been in a similar situation with 2 friends, 1 of them paid up and we're best friends, the other didn't and is now considered a fuck-ass by me and all of my other friends.

                          Make him pay you the $380 and show him the fucking logic why he should pay up, if he doesn't, tell all of your friends he's an untrustworthy bitch.
                          I like this guy.
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                            #14
                            He owes you the money. He needs to pay it, or he will lose a friend.
                            Yours truly,
                            Rich
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                            Originally posted by Rigmaster
                            you kids get off my lawn.....

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                              #15
                              He doesn't sound like a friend at all. No friend of mine would question paying me the $380 in full as soon as they possibly could.

                              If/when he ever does pay you, I'd cut ties after a response like "I need time to respond to that".

                              I'm sorry about your loss(es).
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