Buying a haus! (Ugh...PG. 9)

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  • fporro
    E30 Mastermind
    • Dec 2003
    • 1858

    #16
    Here's my built, from ground up ...http://www.flickr.com/photos/8425801...7632935620057/

    3 architecs later went from 46 to 16 pages of blue prints and no special inspections, have clear simple drawings done, yet make sure all details are there.

    Things I've learned...

    - Multiple bids are a must, pick ones that are realistic, compare materials to be used between them and make sure it's a reputable company.

    - Deposits, well, the more you give the more they'll have you by the ..., their usual pressure tactic is slow work while expecting for you to keep on payment schedule while they fall behinde, how so?, do you get prepaid at work? I don't, why should they ?
    Read contract carefully, do not fall for "general obligations", insurance it's a must.

    - You're not their boss, you're a client, if you don't like their service then take your business someplace else, hence, deposit anchor should be non existant., pay as you go.,
    were you told that "i'll come in with 3 of my guys and get it done in no time" then a 1 man crew shows up and expects 3 man salary while assuring you it will get done in allowed time window, laugh hard and refuse as you were tripple charged then.

    - Dont run out of material, I bought my own and had it delivered, gives you greater range of choices, make sure wood is not warped or full of holes, sellers expect up to 15%worth of refused goods, don't be afraid to send crap back., I went with metal as there's termites around here, choose wisely., buy the good stuff and make sure you get bulk or contractors discount, no can? take your purchasing list some place else., yiou can have a independent 'estimator" come in and tell you how much material you'll need and build cost, then compare it to actual quoted work hours., it's money well spent.

    - When picking tiles, make sure to ask if sample item has same finish as material or have they been manipulated to look that way., some tiles are not pre-finish and will need polishing and sealing. beware.

    - Contractors must stick to time schedules and cost, they'll charge you for "change of orders" so make up your mind before building, if section is yet to be built then change "cost" should be minimum to none, "but is more material and labor", well you bought it and it don't take really longer to built. beware. unless you're asking to excavate for a pool or something like an extra room, 3 more feet of wall or an extra closet don't cost that much if anything at all.

    - Make sure things are up to code prior to inspections, work stopage or safety citations will cost you., rescheduling contractors maight no be available nor have flexiable time windows., can't say it enough, UP TO CODE !

    - Multiple crews at jobsite, it's unavoidable, yet, they don't always get alone., sabotaging or half doing their job for to make it harder for next guy down the line, as always, "it's the other guys fault", BS, dont take that., crooket items will result on crooked finish, just like a bodywork on a car, base layer dictates end result., shaby work? get ried of them, remember how deposits will ancher you to bad builder., demand that bad workmanship gets fixed prior to final payment, have next crew come in and point out issues from prior crew's work.

    I could go on and on.
    Last edited by fporro; 04-11-2013, 09:02 AM.

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    • ButtJuice
      R3VLimited
      • Dec 2009
      • 2609

      #17
      Can I have your life? ^
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      1999 528it - Daily Driver “Dad Wagon”
      1991 325is - 2.8L Budget Stroker Garage Slut
      1991 318is - Sold
      1986 325 - Sold

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      • slammin.e28
        שמע ישראל
        • May 2010
        • 12054

        #18
        Fporro, very nice! Bascially I'll be using my brother as a contact through this. He knows all the right people and doesn't do shabby work. I worked with him in New Mexico building a spec house for the company he works for now. He's also build one other house by the same plans I have now, so he knows where he wants to change things to make it bigger, easier, etc.

        Right now it looks like it's around 1500sq/ft. He wants to stretch it by 4' each way to make room for a stairwell into the basement and change around the master/guest bathroom.

        ...and here's the plans I have now. He has all the truss drawings, etc. Just sent me these three pages to see how if I liked the layout, etc.



        1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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        • Mlarsen
          R3V Elite
          • Feb 2010
          • 4082

          #19
          That garage is way too small ;)

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          • nickmcc92
            E30 Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 442

            #20
            Dont forget the underground garage for the e30.
            The elevator kind :)

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            • oliver.r
              No R3VLimiter
              • Mar 2012
              • 3839

              #21
              if i could build a house for $150k i would have done it when i was fucking 18.
              if you were planning on doing this in CA you would nee like 2 million

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              • slammin.e28
                שמע ישראל
                • May 2010
                • 12054

                #22
                Originally posted by oliver.r
                if i could build a house for $150k i would have done it when i was fucking 18.
                if you were planning on doing this in CA you would nee like 2 million
                This is why I have no desire to live out there, lol. Things are still pretty cheap here.

                So much of it I have hook ups on, but we're going to do full retail when I go to the bank. I am a big DIYer too, and if I can coerce my brother to come out and frame this bish it'll be a lot of money saved.

                Things I cannot DIY:

                Electrical
                Plumbing
                Excavation (basement and septic)
                Water hook up

                Going to make a list and go down it getting estimates.
                1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                • evandael
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2881

                  #23
                  throw some dormer windows on that bish. natural light for the win.

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                  • Farbin Kaiber
                    Lil' Puppet
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 29502

                    #24
                    Hire F34R?

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                    • LJ851
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7918

                      #25
                      I am assuming you just forgot to post the part of the blueprint that shows the detached garage ?
                      Lorin


                      Originally posted by slammin.e28
                      The M30 is God's engine.

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                      • fporro
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1858

                        #26
                        Thanks slammin.e28, it was lots of work but well worth it., having a trustful partner makes things so much easier., face house westwards so you can catch pretty sunsets :)

                        Transfer plans into googles's ... http://www.sketchup.com/ fun program to play with.

                        ButtJuice, on '79 as a teenager got off a plane with $ 20 in my pocket, still going at it.

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                        • slammin.e28
                          שמע ישראל
                          • May 2010
                          • 12054

                          #27
                          Originally posted by LJ851
                          I am assuming you just forgot to post the part of the blueprint that shows the detached garage ?
                          Haven't done anything with that yet. I donno if I wanna build house with garage as planned, or house minus garage and add on, or do a detached later. Either way I'm going to eventually get a detached for a toy room.

                          Originally posted by fporro
                          Thanks slammin.e28, it was lots of work but well worth it., having a trustful partner makes things so much easier., face house westwards so you can catch pretty sunsets :)

                          Transfer plans into googles's ... http://www.sketchup.com/ fun program to play with.

                          ButtJuice, on '79 as a teenager got off a plane with $ 20 in my pocket, still going at it.
                          Oh yeah. The way the lot is I'll be in the trees, but yes, back of the house will be catching the sunset. May take down a few more trees just for a nice yard to play with, etc. Build up the dip behind the house so it is a designated wet area when the snow melts, etc. Run the gutters down there as well.

                          I'll give sketchup a try. I love building plans and drawing them. I know my brother and he probably drew it for minimal waste as far as using whole sheets of plywood, etc. He really gets into details like that.

                          Going to get some tape, string, and stakes and map out the layout on the property to see if it works where I want it.
                          1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                          • mikeedler
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6707

                            #28
                            Originally posted by slammin.e28
                            Should be around $150k if we manage carefully. I have contacts all around the construction industry thru my brother who builds houses for a living.

                            S.O.'s step dad owns a flooring company.

                            ...and I can DIY a lot of it. Big bro may even fly out and we can frame it together.
                            WOW, building there is cheap. I will be half way there with my garage I'm putting up over here!

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                            • jrobie79
                              R3VLimited
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2520

                              #29
                              that's awesome. I plan on building my own house as well, I was a carpenter for many years and currently work in construction management, so I'm thinking I can get it done a lot cheaper. Also my dad is an electrician and my grandfather builds cabinets...just trying to get my credit up to get a construction loan right now.
                              1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
                              1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

                              Originally posted by RickSloan
                              so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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                              • Pac1373
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1746

                                #30
                                Slammin'

                                ensure plumbing is done with "Pex" piping. superior in every way to traditional copper water pipe. Uponor is the best product in the business for that.
                                do not buy hardware/big box plumbing fixtures and faucets, they are not Trade quallity. it will cost you in the medium to long term.
                                high quality product such as Kohler, Delta,Uponor etc may cost you 15% more up front, but I assure you that when the cheap shit in your plumbing or HVAC systems fail the cost will be much larger...

                                also, infloor radiant heating and or ground source Geothermal are things to consider now, as reto-fitting is costly and hard.
                                Originally Posted by ACMF74
                                i clicked on this cuz i saw p3nis

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