Hawthorne Police Officer shooting dog. (NSFW)

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  • Dozyproductions
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    • Jan 2007
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    #31
    I know it's stupid but this only makes me want to shout at the first cop I see. Man, you don't shoot some ones family. We have guys on freaking PCP who want to beat the shit out of the cops and they don't get shot.

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    • Redfox
      E30 Modder
      • Jan 2011
      • 834

      #32
      Originally posted by Exodus_2pt0
      As shitty as this is, I feel it is the owners fault.

      I'm sure that dog's owner knew his dog was protective. So why would he even bring the dog into that situation? Then he failed by not securing the animal, which I'm sure he also knew that the dog would be willing to jump out. Hell I had a rot jump out of a truck window from 6 feet to go greet another animal. I'm sure he would have jumped from higher if he felt I was in danger.

      In the end, IMO, this is the owners fault. We don't know why the police approached him, but from the looks things this was a relatively serious crime scene. They could have already been on edge and just wanted to ask the guy some questions. Until the entire story comes out I think it is a little unfair to blame the police.

      That officer demonstrated a hesitation to shoot the animal. He only shot after repeated lunges and obvious acts of aggression. I don't think I would have let that dog get ahold of me either.

      Sad day indeed, I feel for the owner, but I'll wait before I grab my pitchfork and torch.
      THIS


      The dumbass thought he would be slick, funny, and try to video tape them. He was obviously putting on a show for the rest of the ghetto and needed to show off.

      How many times did this piece of crap pass the cops while there is already an ongoing crime scene going on? He could have been a spectator leaking info or possibly involved. The cops didn't know.

      It's just like irresponsible pit bull owners. He put his dog in that situation, as terrible as it was to watch, he shouldn't have antagonized the cops. He knew his dog would defend him, Rotti's are very protective of their owners. If a 120-150 pound dog was lunging and attacking me I would shoot it too. The officers waited till it lunged several times before shooting. And I was a VETERINARY ASSISTANT and I still feel this way. Your safety comes before a strange animals, especially one showing aggressive signs towards you.

      Another day in the hood in this video and the guy made his dog pay for it. If anyone has a right to be mad it should be at the the irresponsible owner who felt he had to be funny and put on a show for the hood.

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      • Nick_S
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        • Apr 2011
        • 3656

        #33
        That was difficult to watch.

        However, a large Rot barking and lunging at police trying to protect it's owner is a pretty clear threat. Not saying I condone what the police did and tazing it would have probably been a better option.
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        • Dozyproductions
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          • Jan 2007
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          #34
          Originally posted by Redfox
          THIS


          The dumbass thought he would be slick, funny, and try to video tape them. He was obviously putting on a show for the rest of the ghetto and needed to show off.

          How many times did this piece of crap pass the cops while there is already an ongoing crime scene going on? He could have been a spectator leaking info or possibly involved. The cops didn't know.

          It's just like irresponsible pit bull owners. He put his dog in that situation, as terrible as it was to watch, he shouldn't have antagonized the cops. He knew his dog would defend him, Rotti's are very protective of their owners. If a 120-150 pound dog was lunging and attacking me I would shoot it too. The officers waited till it lunged several times before shooting. And I was a VETERINARY ASSISTANT and I still feel this way. Your safety comes before a strange animals, especially one showing aggressive signs towards you.

          Another day in the hood in this video and the guy made his dog pay for it. If anyone has a right to be mad it should be at the the irresponsible owner who felt he had to be funny and put on a show for the hood.
          Everything you just said is based on assumptions and stereotypes that you made. fail.

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          • z6ne
            Mod Crazy
            • Dec 2012
            • 758

            #35
            Originally posted by Redfox
            THIS


            The dumbass thought he would be slick, funny, and try to video tape them. He was obviously putting on a show for the rest of the ghetto and needed to show off.

            How many times did this piece of crap pass the cops while there is already an ongoing crime scene going on? He could have been a spectator leaking info or possibly involved. The cops didn't know.

            It's just like irresponsible pit bull owners. He put his dog in that situation, as terrible as it was to watch, he shouldn't have antagonized the cops. He knew his dog would defend him, Rotti's are very protective of their owners. If a 120-150 pound dog was lunging and attacking me I would shoot it too. The officers waited till it lunged several times before shooting. And I was a VETERINARY ASSISTANT and I still feel this way. Your safety comes before a strange animals, especially one showing aggressive signs towards you.

            Another day in the hood in this video and the guy made his dog pay for it. If anyone has a right to be mad it should be at the the irresponsible owner who felt he had to be funny and put on a show for the hood.
            Look at the houses. This is not the hood, you bigot.
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            • Redfox
              E30 Modder
              • Jan 2011
              • 834

              #36
              Originally posted by Dozyproductions
              Everything you just said is based on assumptions and stereotypes that you made. fail.

              Whoever may be in the background is "egging on" the douche bag walking the dog. Doesn't matter if they are white ghetto trash, black ghetto trash, or an upstanding rich citizen. If you're videotaping someone doing their job, making a spectacle out of a crime scene and attempting to get laughs, you are doing something you shouldn't be.

              Bottom line is he put the dog in that situation. I love Rottis, hell Greg has one, and he even agreed the owner is at fault for egging on police. He left the windows open and knew his dog would do what it took to protect him. He probably did not think they would shoot the dog, but I am sure he knew even subconsciously the dog would jump out.



              Greg just wanted me to add that Hawthorne Cali is NOT a good part of LA. Like I said, white, black, or ghetto, the mentality is pretty child like. A few laughs and being disrespectful and making a joke out of the situation (which could be very serious) put his dogs life at risk. Shit happens.

              The truth hurts, its the owners irresponsibility for the dogs demise

              Tazing or macing would have been better, but when your adrenaline is pumping you defend yourself, and the other officers in that cluster. If tazing didn't drop it, and macing it didn't stop it either, (which an aggressive dog trying to protect its owner is very likely to pull through any other forms of self defense) it would have just made the dog angrier and more aggressive, putting the fellow officers as well as himself at risk.

              They did what they needed to protect themselves. The reason police use K-9 units? They are effective of protecting even till the death. A dog that is generally kept because of it's size, ability to protect, and desire to protect anyone in it's pack is a huge threat to them.
              Last edited by Redfox; 07-02-2013, 07:43 AM.

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              • Dozyproductions
                R3V Elite
                • Jan 2007
                • 4682

                #37
                Very unpatriotic of you but I guess I can't say anything else.

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                • Redfox
                  E30 Modder
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 834

                  #38
                  What does this have to do with patriotism? And I guess you don't have any other response except an ad hominem attack.

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                  • cale
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2331

                    #39
                    Totally unwarranted arrest of the guy, good on him for complying though and not escalating the situation, but too bad he didn't roll up his windows.

                    Unleashed rottie barking and coming after cops, not so unwarranted. It's a shitty situation, but the cops have to protect themselves foremost over a dog. Not saying it was the right response, but I know myself I wouldn't gamble my welfare over the life of a random dog. Those things can do some terrible damage with one bite.

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                    • Dozyproductions
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                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4682

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Redfox
                      What does this have to do with patriotism? And I guess you don't have any other response except an ad hominem attack.
                      Well if critical thought was part of your repertoire you would know that his arrest and shooting of his dog/family was totally unwarranted. Therefore you saying that he got what he deserved is defending the terrorist actions of the police in this situation and many others.

                      Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1473:

                      terrorism - "Act of terrorism" means an activity that involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State..."

                      Yes cops fall under that too.

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                      • Exodus_2pt0
                        R3V Elite
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 5943

                        #41
                        Ok, just to make something clear... Being hand cuffed does not equal an arrest.

                        I love that not jumping into the mob and calling for the heads of police doing their job is now considered unpatriotic.
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                        • Exodus_2pt0
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                          • Dec 2011
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Dozyproductions
                          terrorism - "Act of terrorism" means an activity that involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State..."
                          I saw now threat to human life here, so your reference to terrorism is unwarranted and invalid.

                          You all act like the pissed of dog is somehow the Police officers responsibility. Nor do any of us know the entire situation.
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                          Originally posted by MrBurgundy
                          Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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                          • Dozyproductions
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #43
                            Refer to sig. And no, as others said, this shit happens all the time. I got a gun pulled on me for going the speed limit. (I filed a complaint and that was as far as that went) That's an act of terrorism. Shooting a dog with people all around is a danger to everyone's life in the area. That's why responsible shooters shoot at a range or some where far away from people.

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                            • Exodus_2pt0
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 5943

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Dozyproductions
                              Shooting a dog with people all around is a danger to everyone's life in the area. That's why responsible shooters shoot at a range or some where far away from people.
                              And you're the one facepalmed out?

                              I get it, the police are always wrong. They were just supposed to stand there while this dog mauled them. Bottom line, hang around a crime scene and you may be spoken to by the police. This is not the entire video, the guy may have been bothering them enough that they felt a need to question him. Maybe he was a witness? Who the hell knows, but it is a little extreme to immediately blame the officers.
                              Last edited by Exodus_2pt0; 07-02-2013, 08:22 AM.
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                              Originally posted by MrBurgundy
                              Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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                              • F34R
                                sLaughter
                                • May 2009
                                • 12390

                                #45
                                That was so dumb, the guy should have gotten in his car and left. As an owner of Rotties for the past 15 years they are BRUTALLY protective. The owner of the dog should have known that and thought to roll his windows up.
                                I understand that the dog attacked, that is the job of a rottie. They PROTECT their owners and family till death. I ALSO would have shot if a dog attacked me, I FULLY blame the owner.

                                Look at him, he walks up and turns around knowing he was going to get cuffed. STUPID FUCKING OWNER. It is not the policeman's fault the dog attacked, the owner did NOT restrain his dog. The owner could get filed for charges for the dog attacking them.

                                Anyone that is asking for the Policemans badges and shit is FUCKING MORONS. Do you put your life on the line everyday for others? I know there is some stupid Policeman out there. But you do not know why they were there and that guy should not have been filming like that. He asked for it, and HE alone got his dog killed. He is a dumb retarded owner.
                                Last edited by F34R; 07-02-2013, 08:51 AM.
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