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I'm an ignorant 17 year old.
Well most of you will call me an ignorant punk that doesn't respect law enforcement but here are my views... because freedom of speech.
The kid has broken no laws through out the whole video? correct.
This is a DUI check point, He was confronted by a man (from what i see in the video) who is false into power. Now the officer has "pushed" By using his 'power' In which he says "That's fine ?" Now the officer was pretty polite, asked how his night was but then wants the young man to roll down his window. (I would have rolled down my window, It's a DUI check point. The officer should be able to see you, smell you.. and get an overall view of what he is looking at for safety issues to the public.) But with that being said he refuses and still has not committed any crimes.
The kid is also polite and stays within his legal limits, even replies with sir.
After the officer has lied to him about it's against the law to not tell him his age (which the kid still complies with) he then tells him to pull to the side. A simple question of whether or not he is being detained arises which is not answered. The officer keeps using the intimidation factor to try and control the young man. The kid still stays within his legal limits and is calmly answering questions.
The kid does not consent to searches and then a dog crawls all over his vehicle. (Don't act like you wouldn't be pissed.) Now after the dog "signal's" they are able to search his car. To find nothing, this is harassment.
They had no rights to a search and no indications of him Driving Under the Influence. Stand up for your rights america, they are being stolen from you.Leave a comment:
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Look, I can do it too.
Hey guys, your government is going to take away your rights then attack you when they figure out how to take away your freedom ie guns...."Of course the people dont want war...that is understood. But voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, 2nd in command to Adolf Hitler
Brainwashing works both ways.Leave a comment:
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true story ^
maybe i was wrong maybe travish is a Nazi!:giggle:Leave a comment:
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It happened in Feb 2012.The officer, Harmon-Wright, was sentenced to 3 years in Mar 2013.
from http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/03/cu...illed-patrici:
[Harmon-Wright claimed] that he was responding to reports of a suspicious woman sitting in her vehicle on the school’s property, and that when he went to take Cook’s license, she rolled up his arm in her Jeep’s window and drove off, dragging the officer and forcing him to shoot.
Kris Buchele, a carpenter who was working near Epiphany on Feb. 9, told WUSA9 the week of the shooting that "[Harmon-Wright] was not dragged and that he shot [Cook] before she drove away"; that "he didn't have his arm caught because the officer's left hand was on the door handle and right hand was holding a weapon"; that "he distinctly saw her roll up the window all the way before the officer shot out the glass and killed her."As I've written before, this could've been avoided if Harmon-Wright had been properly screened for the job:
Soon after Harmon-Wright was arrested, it was revealed that he had a tarnished military record, a drinking problem, and a history of harassing Culpeper residents. The first two problems nearly kept him from getting the job, and no one at the Culpeper Police Department will say why they didn't.I'm not a big fan of locking people in cages, but I find it appalling that Daniel Harmon-Wright is going to do three years for murder while Cook got the death penalty for trying to avoid a confrontation.
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Do I have to post this again. DONT TALK TO COPS. while not really approatie to this situation the idea should remain the same. DONT TALK TO COPS, dont tell them anything more than ya have too, who you are is about it.
Asking if your being detained means you have now set the ground work that the police must follow procedures not this gray area of what they can get away with in trying to find something to pin on you.
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Anybody knows the full story on this one ?
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I was unaware until I saw this morning's newspaper that this happened nearby (Rutherford County, TN).
Rutherford deputy in DUI checkpoint video once resigned postLeave a comment:
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I don't understand what him asking if he was being detained has to do with anything.
"Am I being detained" should b the anthem of his generation.
Here
Spend some time.
By not rolling his window down while operating his vehicle on a public road and entering a legal checkpoint he did no comply to a request of a peace officer resulting in a compromise of safety. "Am I being detained" only really applies when on foot when an officer can safely asses the situation that surrounds them and the public. Kind of like equal force to defend. An officer on foot has no equal defense or recourse to immediately and safely defend the public compared to an individual in a car, especially when being evasive toward him or her. When it comes to making split second decisions, the phrase " am I being detained" doesnt apply. He was detained the minute he pulled over. As a citizen, if you roll into an announced roadblock ( in many states they must inform the public via a media source) you are detained until the officer sees fit to allow you to proceed to your destination. So If you act right, you get to go. If you act like a fool and refuse to comply, or ask if you are being detained, after you have begun to be evasive and decided to play lawyer, then guess what. You don't get to go perry mason. A lawyers advice is this. If you haven't been drinking, comply. If you have do everything in your power to stall. THATS what the window trick does. Only problem is he messed it up. He should have had his documents ready and stuck them out the window. Then ask what the roadblock was for. In most cases DUI checkpoints are illegal and police say they are license checks. The second your license is deemed legal, you are free to go in such a check. Thats right, you are free to go. An officer cannot detain you further once you have provided them with what they are asking for. This specifically applies in GA because DUI checks are highly illegal without the proper paperwork and due diligence by police. Asking questions that have no bearing on the stop don't help you, they hinder you. Dude doesn't understand the law as It applies to the situation. The cop doesn't care. The rest is in the video. Most may think they get it, but again, the police can say just about anything to justify their actions in this case because the viewer cannot see the entire interaction.
The kid would make more progress at the dmv by asking am I being detained.
Seriously.
Maybe he could scream 4th amendment next time....... Or maybe 5th..... Shit, go through them all..... Film that, it would be more interesting.
Any other r3v lawyers wanna chime in?Last edited by delatlanta1281; 07-08-2013, 10:27 PM.Leave a comment:
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