I am a Troll, and this is my Thread

[E30 Wagen]

jesus, dude! That doesn't even make any sense. (1) you should probably read what i actually wrote. Apparently, there are too many words there for your education level. there is nothing there about lying to women as you wouldn't know because you can't or didn't take the time to read. I am simply talking about meeting them and finding a way to engage them in a (2) reasonable conversation and transitioning to the first date.

I used words like "genuine" and "trust", treating a woman the way one would like to be treated in return. I further go on to talk about listening to what the lady has to say.

(1) no offense, but whatever that comment you posted above is suppose to be, it comes across as complete idiocy. You have a pretty good university in your neck of the woods. Maybe you should take some classes in reading comprehension?

lots of men have trouble finding a way to meet women. Just trying to help a brotha along. With the right approach, attitude and confidence level it is easy. I am not talking about one eyed beaver spear skillz. I am talking about meeting chick skillz. You can choose to use my advice or not. (1) just remember that it won't do you any good if you can't comprehend it.

(1) I assure you that I read everything, and I'm satisfied that my summary of it is accurate. In fourth grade I scored a perfect 100% in the reading comprehension portion of the MEAP test. Since then my reading comprehension has not faltered, and I bet I've spent more time in college english classes than you, so fuck you and your lame retorts.

(2) Reasonable conversation?

think of something to compliment the girl about. pretty hair, pretty eyes, pretty smile, nice shoes..... my favorites are the smile and shoes. even if nothing about her stands out, say it anyway and sound genuine. you are just trying to get her attention and get her to notice you.

So just act like you're being genuine. In other words, if you want to get in her pants just come up with some charmy bullshit to get her attention. If she bites then just keep reeling her in. So you used words like "genuine" and "trust?" Well, congratulations Shakespeare, it's all clear now. That is, despite how mature you're trying to sound, it's clearly just all a game to you, and it's weak shit that never lasts. That's the point of my post. The girl figures this out and moves on and she'll never give a shit about you again.

I've got no criticism about your dating ideas or advice. I get everything that you're explaining, but reduce it all to its most basic point and your advice is basically to lie about how you really feel about the girl. All that matters is that you've got her attention, that you're "in."

It's more than likely I'm just old-fashioned and ornery. Maybe the more mature folks on here can let me know if I'm way off; I'll listen. Whatever the case, EAD for assuming all that shit about me. I really would have no qualms about saying all this to your face, I just don't care anymore.

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[///M42 sport]

^^^e30wagon. umm wow, you've never been played by a woman? Hot chicks always have 50 douchbags after them who inundate the girl with attention and guess who she goes out with...at the same time chicks aren't all bunny rabbits waiting for the predator to bite. They play the game as much as guys do.

Then if your past the college years, and get online to meet a decent chick in their late twenties, most are looking for the "knight in shining armor" or have kids or have baggage from being screwed over by douchebags.

Its rediculous how dating is such a game.

Call me disillusioned

[chadthestampede]

this thread went downhill fast

[///M42 sport]

lol

[Farbin Kaiber]

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[flyboyx]

(1) I assure you that I read everything, and I'm satisfied that my summary of it is accurate. In fourth grade I scored a perfect 100% in the reading comprehension portion of the MEAP test. Since then my reading comprehension has not faltered, and I bet I've spent more time in college english classes than you, so fuck you and your lame retorts.

(2) Reasonable conversation?

So just act like you're being genuine. In other words, if you want to get in her pants just come up with some charmy bullshit to get her attention. If she bites then just keep reeling her in. So you used words like "genuine" and "trust?" Well, congratulations Shakespeare, it's all clear now. That is, despite how mature you're trying to sound, it's clearly just all a game to you, and it's weak shit that never lasts. That's the point of my post. The girl figures this out and moves on and she'll never give a shit about you again.

I've got no criticism about your dating ideas or advice. I get everything that you're explaining, but reduce it all to its most basic point and your advice is basically to lie about how you really feel about the girl. All that matters is that you've got her attention, that you're "in."

It's more than likely I'm just old-fashioned and ornery. Maybe the more mature folks on here can let me know if I'm way off; I'll listen. Whatever the case, EAD for assuming all that shit about me. I really would have no qualms about saying all this to your face, I just don't care anymore.

are you puritan? amish? looking through a computer screen, there is no way to tell if you are 18 or 78, married or single.

from the sounds of it, to assume you are married(which is a stretch) it must have been arranged by your mom.

lying to a woman is representing yourself to be something you are not or telling them you will do something you don't ever intend to do. i didn't suggest going up to a 400 lb heifer in a bar and telling her she has a nice ass and that will make her panties fly off like they were shot out of a canon. i never suggested that the guys on this forum need to lie about their occupation to get laid. telling a woman that she is pretty and making her feel good about herself is inherently harmless.

your "high road" is beyond ridiculous. has your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister (assuming that you have ever had one) ever come home from the beauty shop with a hairstyle you didn't like? when she asked what you thought, did you tell her so? if not, by your standard, you are a lair in the same sense that you say i am.

the reason i think you are celibate is because you seem to have this attitude that men are all dirty douchebags and women are all heavenly sheltered angles. without a doubt it is obvious that you have never had the ability to talk to them easily. people are people. that is all. some are good and some are bad. men and women are generally meant to be together(if that is your preference) in order for this to happen, people need to meet each other. that is all. i guess you can hold onto the fact that complimenting a woman to make her feel good about herself is a lie only to get in her pants. i guess it can be whatever you want to make it. seems to me you are one of those guys who has spent your entire life on the outside looking in.

somewhere here in 2013, there needs to be a balance between your 1800's ideals and the other extreme of lying, shagging and banging with which i am not condoning or implying.

[BillBrasky]

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[Roysneon]

Fuck guys, E30wagen is coming off more pathetic than me in this thread. Take your white knighting and pissing match to PM's, nobody gives a fuck.

And flyboy, some very good advice there. The coffee vs dinner and movie, setting a time you need to leave. etc. all great ideas. There's this one woman at work I've been thinking of asking out. I think coffee after work would be a smaller step from co worker to going on a date than a typical 'date'.

[E30 Wagen]

more assumptions about me

wrong

I knew i'd regret posting in this thread...

[flyboyx]

And flyboy, some very good advice there. The coffee vs dinner and movie, setting a time you need to leave. etc. all great ideas. There's this one woman at work I've been thinking of asking out. I think coffee after work would be a smaller step from co worker to going on a date than a typical 'date'.

Normally i am advocate of being sort of ballz out fearless when asking a girl out. The somewhat cautious exception is the workplace. You need to maintain professionalism in the eyes of your coworkers and boss if you give a crap about your job.
sometimes asking a woman from work out can be a bit touchy as i am sure you know. i am not suggesting that you shouldn't though. how closely does she work with you? if you are right next to each other it will just take some extreme care to make it not weird if it doesn't work out. however, on the other hand, there is a saying that says something to the effect of the spoils go to the bold. basically to me this means you need to take risks to get ahead in life.

do you talk to her on a somewhat regular basis? is she friendly toward you? have you flirted with her a little here and there? anything come back? maybe the next time you see her in the break room, start with the step 1 my advice earlier. if she looks nice tell her so. ask her a few non threatening personal questions and see if she asks similiar questions back. this is how i always got a gauge of some chick's interest when i wanted to ask her out.

if you start dating-i hope you do....make a pact with her not to share any personal info with coworkers. no sense in that nonsense.

there are a lot of people that live by the mantra of not shitting where you eat. i personally think that such a policy can erroneously eliminate lots of good potential suitors.

i have dated more than a few flight attendants, agents and a couple pilots in my day. the reason why is because i am around them on a regular basis and they are women that i have had easy access to. basically convenience i suppose. however i was always careful which ones i chose and used a lot of discretion when it came to the company water cooler. actually when it comes down to it, my wife was a flight attendant when i met her. we have been together for about 6 total years at this point. so there is some living proof that dating a co worker can work out.

[der affe]

"nothing beats a relationship with a women that you are truly in love with. i am 3 months married and i will NEVER cheat on her. "


Probably the most true statement made here. Nothing compairs to being with a woman you are truly in love with. Someone who you would do anything for and they would do the same.

Going out and humping everything is not the answer and will most likely lead to you missing out on meeting some truly amazing women. There are other consequences that will come about from running around and it will also turn a lot of the women that are actually good, off to what you do. Despite the advice being given, it is unfulfilling. Don't do it.

Your odds of finding a decent girl in a bar, while not impossible, are slim.

Get out and do the things you like to do, meet people. Get yourself RIGHT. If you are fucked up you will attract the same people, you don't want that. If you keep meeting shitty people and you are a decent person, don't sink to their level, you will just become bitter and jaded.
Put yourself in with good people and you will meet the same. Don't fall into the same trap I did

I know this is probably not the advice you are expecting to hear from me.
I had to pull my head out of my ass first. i stopped being a shit bag and the fact that I really am a good person, helped me find an amazing woman that I care about and she feels the same, we share tons of things in common, have an amazing time together and are happy together.

I hope you can also find someone like that too.

Holland feel free to pm me if you would like.

[evandael]

der affe, you are a changed man.

holland, you will find the right lady. many will not be right. most importantly, sex is overrated. don't even pursue it. instead devote your energy to yourself (your car, learning how to cook/weld/take photos/whatever, making money, exploring, making friends). i know i'm trying to.

making love, though.. it's life-affirming. and that will come when you find the right woman.

[gtdragon980]

I've been looking into the whole dating site thing, not sure which site would be the best.

Just got a new job so finally I will be making some income. Just found out I'm nowhere obese enough for my job either. Dress slacks are impossible to find in a 28 waist, lol.

You sound much like me brother! hahaha I know the pain of trying to find pants that actually fit!

BTW I heard those dating sites were just a load of bull to get your money....Have you guys really had a good experience on those or you just trolling? I mean this is a troll thread :p

[acolella76]

Wow, I really should have followed this thread it looks like a good read.



Too bad I was busy getting laid



But I guess I should at least contribute something now that I'm caught up on this thread. First off, Der Affe is right on about picking up chicks in bars/shady areas. I've been buying my clothes from stores that a lot of gay dudes go to, and it's awesome because they have good clothes for relatively cheap AND chicks dig gay guys so they come to you! Who cares if they might think you're gay at first, that can easily be sorted out once you start talking. I'm not saying to lie and tell them you're gay, that's stupid and won't get you anywhere. As I type this I realize that this could work in really any clothing store as long as women are present. Pick out a piece of clothing (you don't even have to fucking like it) and go up to a girl and be like "hey, how do you like this?". If it's shitty ask for her help, if she likes it tell her you'll wear it when you take her out on a date.

My only other advice is to be yourself... pretty cliche yeah I know shut up. Don't lie to impress chicks if you want more than just to get in her pants, it WILL bite you in the ass. Being shy does have its advantages, I've heard girls tell me that they like that I'm shy because they know at least that I'm not an agro-asshole trying to hump anything in his path. Makes sense, I can't say I have ever been called an agro-asshole trying to hump everything. So don't get upset if you feel like you aren't talking enough, just be sure to make plenty of eye contact and be relaxed.

Oh, and some dudes like to travel in packs to pick up chicks like it's some sort of mission that requires teamwork and a plan of action. I think that sucks. Most of the times I've tried to pick up chicks I either worry about being rejected in front of my friends, looking too 'thirsty' in front of my friends, or being called out by my friends because they're chicks like that. And I'm sure it's weird for girls to know that one guy is talking to her while the rest are watching from some distant vantage point, OR she might even be pissed that you are the one chatting her up and not your more attractive friend.

My favorite 'first date' venue is the local karting track. Some chicks might not be into it, which I can dig because I've noticed that the ones that like karting are the ones that don't get butthurt when I'm busy working on my car or something (hell, play your cards right and they will ask to come 'help'). I do this before dinner and that usually opens up the option of taking them out to eat afterwards if you like them or "oh shit i forgot i had dinner plans, PEACE" if you don't.

And the most important thing to remember - you WILL get rejected. It's going to happen, and it's honestly nothing personal. Don't take it as a blow to your ego or that you aren't 'good enough', instead think of what went wrong and how you can improve. If you still feel pretty bad, just assume that every girl that rejects you is a lesbian or married. Unless you are Ryan Gosling, there will be girls that say no.

BUT you'll never know how many girls are actually into you until you start talking to them.

and I bet I've spent more time in college english classes than you, so fuck you and your lame retorts.

I just love this so much