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  • mbonanni
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2011
    • 6236

    #241
    I think the settup I am running is using a high amount of watts, cause the heat is instant, and batteries start to drain somewhat fast.

    When I tried to wrap a coil with 8 coils it took forever to heat up, ad it just wasnt that great of a vape.

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    • e30vert
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jan 2005
      • 1789

      #242
      Originally posted by psigti
      E30vert... you might as well be talking to the wall...

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      It wouldn't be the first time lol!

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      • e30vert
        E30 Mastermind
        • Jan 2005
        • 1789

        #243
        Originally posted by mbonanni
        I did have a question about air flow. Does a bigger hole allow for more ventilation to cool the coil? Is there a certain length of time I should take a vape for, or not go over. Is there a required time in between eavh vape?
        Yes larger hole or dual holes allow for more air just as one would expect . Many of the RDA' s have a small hole or holes from manufacturing so many find that the draw is tight . The smaller hole makes it harder to get large volumes of air across the coil and wicking material which produces less vapor.

        Typically the hole is enlarged and caped with the new size hole to gauge the amount of restriction to the draw versus the amount of vapor one can produce. Then enlarged again and again till ones "sweet spot" is determined. One can go to big and have an overly "airy " draw as well.

        2 holes are used in some cases when 2 coils are used in the atomizer . This allows air to fils over each if the coils.

        It's not about cooling the coils , but more about passing air over the energized coils that have heated the wicking material and caused the juice to vaporize. Hence the term "vaping".

        No real time in between vapes is needed if a well constructed coil and wicking material has been established. I can chain vape and just hold the trigger ( button) if I so choose. Battery life is diminished with this approach though as the regenerative properties that are inherent in lithium ion batteries do not function as well with continued use.

        Some lighter juices may also tend to get a burned taste if super heated for long periods of time.

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        • e30vert
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jan 2005
          • 1789

          #244
          Originally posted by mbonanni
          I think the settup I am running is using a high amount of watts, cause the heat is instant, and batteries start to drain somewhat fast.

          When I tried to wrap a coil with 8 coils it took forever to heat up, ad it just wasnt that great of a vape.
          That's the beauty of determining the exact resistance you atomizer is at. One can calculate for wattage.

          You should heed the warnings given as without testing for a dead short of your coil or coils it could mean trouble . For instance if the coil touches the interior portion of the RDA and creates a short you would not know that be visually looking at the coil because the cap that goes on top could touch the coil or move it into a grounded position.
          It only takes ONE time

          I've got a small trash can with some sand in it for a thermal runaway situation if it comes to that. Also don't stack batteries that are different types with different levels of charge or life. Try not to use a battery right off the charger .
          Don't leave the battery or batteries in the charger overnight while sleeping. Just uproot one end so they are not under constant charge while you sleep.

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          • mbonanni
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2011
            • 6236

            #245
            I am not entirely sure what is going on then. My Igo-L gets pretty hot after awhile. I have checked to make sure the batteries are charged and not hott. Is this normal?

            I havent read much into that, but I do have a bucket I can toss my stuff in.

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            • e30vert
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jan 2005
              • 1789

              #246
              Originally posted by mbonanni
              I am not entirely sure what is going on then. My Igo-L gets pretty hot after awhile. I have checked to make sure the batteries are charged and not hott. Is this normal?

              I havent read much into that, but I do have a bucket I can toss my stuff in.
              Sure the dripper will get hot over time. That's normal. What is not normal is for the battery to get hot quickly and then begin to outgas .

              Energy is dissipated as either light or heat. In this case it's more heat than light .

              If there is too much continuous use of the coil it can pop or create an open . Which is kinda normal over time and would just be a heat induced breakage of the wire. Then you just scrap the wick and coil and build another one.

              I use kanthal ribbon wire primarily over 2 or 3 mm Ekowool that has been boiled for 5 minutes or so and then dry burned and my coils hold up to lots of continued use .

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              • mbonanni
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2011
                • 6236

                #247
                Okay, if heating up is normal then cool. My batteries never ever get hot.

                I think I have 3mm silica.

                I haven't ever boiled anything yet. What is the reason for this?

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                • LowR3V'in
                  R3V Elite
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4209

                  #248
                  So what strength of nicotine do I need to get
                  for it to be as strong as a cigerette hit-for-hit?

                  I'm doing 24mg and I can smoke on that all day without felling anything.

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                  • psigti
                    Wrencher
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 290

                    #249


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                    • mbonanni
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 6236

                      #250
                      Those little doo dads are cool.

                      I'm going to buy a multimeter though cause I need one for use with my car anyways.

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                      • e30vert
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1789

                        #251
                        Originally posted by psigti
                        http://www.madvapes.com/cartomizer-a...ohm-meter.html

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                        You will never find that meter in stock with Madvapes. Reason being is that people get on their notify list and the moment it comes into stock they immediately buy them up.
                        Then there is the problem with Madvapes where they sell as a distributor to retail and online vape outlets and those store owners by them by the dozen!

                        They are literally received and sold out within minutes.

                        Thats the basic meter most shops use to screw there atty's into to determine resistance of the build.

                        I am building my own of exotic wood and larger backlit (blue) LCD. I will post up when completed. Going to compare to multimeter and shop testers to calibrate it correctly.

                        I may make some more for others. Depends...

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                        • e30vert
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1789

                          #252
                          Originally posted by mbonanni
                          Okay, if heating up is normal then cool. My batteries never ever get hot.

                          I think I have 3mm silica.

                          I haven't ever boiled anything yet. What is the reason for this?
                          Boiling of the Ecowool is done to remove any contaminants from processing or creation of the Ecowool itself. To help remove any possible contaminants.

                          After I boil and the Ecowool drys. I then torch it and super heat it. Ecowool can handle up to about 1200 degrees! So it wont burn like other materials at a lower temperature.

                          The build a coil and dry burn it by sending current through the coil and checking and adjusting for any hot spots within the coil. This involves moving the winding of the coils back and forth to help negate the spot heating that can occur.

                          BTW, Lots of people dont care for silica wick as it can give a pretty harsh dry it if run dry and can obliterate ones throat for a day or so. Ecowool is much more forgiving from what I have found. You can still get dry hits , but you dont end up feeling like ground glass was just splooged down your pie hole.
                          Last edited by e30vert; 10-01-2013, 03:49 PM.

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                          • e30vert
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1789

                            #253
                            Originally posted by LowR3V'in
                            So what strength of nicotine do I need to get
                            for it to be as strong as a cigerette hit-for-hit?

                            I'm doing 24mg and I can smoke on that all day without felling anything.
                            I vape 6 mg or 12 max so I can chain vape. Hit after hit !!! The effects of nicotine are cumulative after all. Chain vape that 24 mg and see if you can get yourself weak kneed or head spinned and report back. Do long prolonged lung hits.

                            24 mg will put me on my ass using this method for prolonged periods.

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                            • psigti
                              Wrencher
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 290

                              #254
                              Unfortunately those went out of stock almost at fast as I posted it. I use both. But to be completely honest, the cartometer comes in handy and is my go to device lately but if you are measuring out wire a good meter with clip leeds is more functional. Once you start to get used to X wraps of Y gauge = Z Ohms. You will only use the cartometer /multimeter to get a final Ohm reading and to check for shorts.

                              I meant to tell you the other day... one of the things that helped me early in wrapping coils and then microcoils was knowing the resistance of the wire I was using. Example. 26gauge kanthal has 3.31ohms per foot @ 68ºf. You can just reduce that down to the inch and get an approximate Ohm from that.

                              That makes sense right? I'm not always the best at explaining things. My fingers don't always match my brain. Lol

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                              • psigti
                                Wrencher
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 290

                                #255
                                Also... when you get your meter... on the dial there will be an Omega symbol. (That's ohms) touch the leeds together and it will give you a resistance value. When you measure out the resistance you need to subtract this value from the new value. This will get you closer to the actual resistance.

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