What does R3v think about the Fiat 500 Abarth?

[Balleristic31]

A friend had one and had a ton of reliability issues w/ turbo parts and sensors. He drove it hard at autox though, but still he sold it and bought a brand new civic si and is happier.

[ParsedOut]

You just can't compared the price of new cars with used cars. Most of us here don't see the value in buying any new car, so I don't know why the price is such a sticking point for you guys.
I think they're great. Sound bonkers - fun tossable little thing. I much prefer small and agile over big and lumbering. You're kidding yourself, if you think an E30 is a safer car than a 500. It's a really strong segment at the moment - the Abarth, Fiesta ST, Focus ST, GTI and Cooper S are all great cars. Hot hatches are great - sure I wish there was a modern day RWD option like the Renault R5 Turbo, but these FWD hatches can be a hoot. Don't discount them because they're FWD. That's just stupid - judge them on merit.

I judge it because it's ugly as hell and not worth the trade offs.

[word is bond]

You just can't compared the price of new cars with used cars. Most of us here don't see the value in buying any new car, so I don't know why the price is such a sticking point for you guys.
I think they're great. Sound bonkers - fun tossable little thing. I much prefer small and agile over big and lumbering. You're kidding yourself, if you think an E30 is a safer car than a 500. It's a really strong segment at the moment - the Abarth, Fiesta ST, Focus ST, GTI and Cooper S are all great cars. Hot hatches are great - sure I wish there was a modern day RWD option like the Renault R5 Turbo, but these FWD hatches can be a hoot. Don't discount them because they're FWD. That's just stupid - judge them on merit.

[Andy348]

As has been said, $22k is just too much. Even the used ones here are going for $20-$24. Sounds godly though.

For that price I'd pick up a nice E46M3 and call it a day

[redsubdivisions]

Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

[atmobenzin]

Less gay than a Mini Cooper, more gay than everything else.

[Roysneon]

The prices are up there, but I fucking like them. I guess I wouldn't pay that damn much for one, but I'd be fine owning and driving one daily.

You guys are all like when Richard Hammond was hypnotized on the show into thinking that the 911 was the greatest car ever, no matter what facts he was presented with. It's kind of sad and pathetic, but also kind of scary that people can actually be that way.

[BruceHammerson]

I'd probably spend my $22,095 elsewhere. At least its not a Smart car? I couldn't imagine riding in something smaller then the e30....I have a hard enough time getting in that!

[myinfernalbmw]

And why is everyone saying that it's size is a bad thing? I mean, I guess if you got into an accident with two semi trucks it could end badly, but how often does that happen really? Small = good IMO. That's one reason why e30's are good, right?

After being in a rollover accident, I like a little substance around me. Your body is about two feet away from the bumpers at either end. I don't care how rigid the Abarth chassis is, if an average sized car hits you at any rate of speed, you're going to feel it. I'd rather improve my walkaway odds a little. At least the E30 has an actual trunk and hood as a buffer zone.

I think they're "neat" but I don't see the value in it's price tag. I do like the fact that they can do a U turn within like 8 feet though lol.

[nickflic3]

I love the sound. U.S. versions come with the resonator removed

[gkobez]

I've driven a few and for as much as they cost and as good as they sound, they are really fucking slow. Unless you really like the car I don't see the value at their current prices.

[ParsedOut]

I would DD the hell out of one.

DD while getting a BJ from a TS. :D

[ajhostetter]

I think they're great, but also kinda...ghey

[CabbE30]

I would DD the hell out of one.

[M-technik-3]

Depends on where in Europe you live. Spain has plenty of open space and as does Germany. Just depends on where in the country you are. Frankfurt am or Berlin sure but in say Trier or Bitburg, nah not needed.

When I rent from Sixt or Hertz, I always try to get something in the 1 series or small C class size. Other than that they just don't fit my needs.