Sad day: Robin Williams found dead

[Roysneon]

I will say this though, what a selfish act. Depression is not a disease and is a matter of choice through breaking the mental/chemical slavery. Just like the simple act of smiling can make you feel better. He left his kids and family and all we can say is rip. True but what the hell.

You can fuck off as well.

[Mr. Burns]

I will say this though, what a selfish act. Depression is not a disease and is a matter of choice through breaking the mental/chemical slavery. Just like the simple act of smiling can make you feel better. He left his kids and family and all we can say is rip. True but what the hell.

you're absolutely allowed your very own opinion, however i'll need to absolutely disagree when you state that one can "make a choice" with depression.
It can be predisposed within ones genealogy, which ultimately make ones neurochemical structures rendered imbalanced, causing a tilt in mood.
The longer the imbalance, the deeper the depression, the hardest it is to get yourself to "lift" out of it.
Oftentimes (like myself, and millions of others) have had to use medication (anti-depressant/anti-anxiety etc) to get the initial boost to allow ones self to start recovery and healing.
The antidepressant/anti-anxiety medication is absolutely NOT a "fix all" solution- lifestyle changes and acceptance in ones very own self is part of the road to recovery.
There have been incredible breakthroughs when combining eastern healing practices (yoga/meditation/mindfulness) along with western medicines.

If I could of just "chosen" to simply smile and feel better, I would of had those months/years back of my life, and worry I caused for my family and friends.

Am I ashamed of any of this? absolutely not, it's part of who I am, and what happened to me.
It's a continual practice to assure I employ the tools I've picked up along the time to cope with it.

What happened to Robin is not my story, it's his. We will never know exactly what was happening in his mind at the time, but I can assure that it "wasn't him"....anyone who's suffered this (whatever you want to call it) will know what I mean.

*in my opinion* he HAD to of been bi-polar...his standup comedy, often verged on the edges of manic, whereas he was extra ordinarily private, and had admitted to periods of extreme sadness in the past...combine that with addiction...it's pretty textbook to bi-polarism.

anyhow, rant over...

coles:
you can't just "turn depression off by choice"

[nando]

I will say this though, what a selfish act. Depression is not a disease and is a matter of choice through breaking the mental/chemical slavery. Just like the simple act of smiling can make you feel better. He left his kids and family and all we can say is rip. True but what the hell.

medically and scientifically, you're full of shit.

[slaterd]

I will say this though, what a selfish act. Depression is not a disease and is a matter of choice through breaking the mental/chemical slavery. Just like the simple act of smiling can make you feel better. He left his kids and family and all we can say is rip. True but what the hell.

Having experienced severe depression first hand for well over a year and a half, I think I'm allowed to tell you to go fuck yourself. IT is NOT a decision! It is a crippling state that those who've never experienced it will never understand and have no right to chime in on. Experience it yourself, if you make it out alive, GREAT! However, I expect you to take back your words.

[e30austin]

Having experienced severe depression first hand for well over a year and a half, I think I'm allowed to tell you to go fuck yourself. IT is NOT a decision! It is a crippling state that those who've never experienced it will never understand and have no right to chime in on. Experience it yourself, if you make it out alive, GREAT! However, I expect you to take back your words.

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Some people just don't get it...

[e30austin]

I will say this though, what a selfish act. Depression is not a disease and is a matter of choice through breaking the mental/chemical slavery. Just like the simple act of smiling can make you feel better. He left his kids and family and all we can say is rip. True but what the hell.

I hope someday that you experience serious depression, just so we can all tell you that it isn't a disease :roll:

[F34R]

I hope someday that you experience serious depression, just so we can all tell you that it isn't a disease :roll:

It would not be an experience for him...it would be a "choice" lol Obesity in most cases is a choice, but depression is not.

[Ether-D]

I hope someday that you experience serious depression, just so we can all tell you that it isn't a disease :roll:

I bet you don't mean that…

[e30austin]

It would not be an experience for him...it would be a "choice" lol Obesity in most cases is a choice, but depression is not.

Exactly!

I bet you don't mean that…

No, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. My statement was meant facetiously.

[Ether-D]

No, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. My statement was meant facetiously.

Gotcha.
I kinda wonder if obesity could be linked to depression and subsequent food addiction as well.

[Mr. Burns]

Having experienced severe depression first hand for well over a year and a half, I think I'm allowed to tell you to go fuck yourself. IT is NOT a decision! It is a crippling state that those who've never experienced it will never understand and have no right to chime in on. Experience it yourself, if you make it out alive, GREAT! However, I expect you to take back your words.

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I remember somedays I would simply go hour by hour it was that bad.

[Mr. Burns]

I hope someday that you experience serious depression

oy....I wouldn't even wish/hope depression even on my worst enemy...it's something I hope/pray I'll never ever have to experience again*knock on wood*

[Mr. Burns]

Gotcha.
I kinda wonder if obesity could be linked to depression and subsequent food addiction as well.

there IS absolutely a link between obesity and depression.
Some use alcohol/drugs as their coping mechanism for depression which offer that "feel good/forget it feeling" whereas other use food/porn/younameit

[Dozyproductions]

I took medication for years and years for my epilepsy that made me depressed enough to be under a house arrest suicide watch type deal. (god bless my parents and friends) What was the point of living? It's true, it's like a veil covers the feelings you get from common sense/ natural self preservation. Even after being off the medication I was off the watch but severely depressed for years after and nothing did the trick. It took a long time to slow down and to realize I was selfishly putting attention towards myself and having my friends and family put their needs/wants aside for mine. God, getting out of that pit was like getting out of some psychotic hell hole but it started and ended by a series and dedication to positive decisions. Big things have small beginnings, aka a smile.

Western medicine will tell you that it's a disease but through my experience, and that of many others who try "alternative" care, that diagnosis might only be prolonged through some sort of placebo effect. As Mr. Burns medications perhaps it's a mix but suicide is always a choice.

One of my most beloved cousins committed suicide last year. Have any one of your family done this? Devastating for all of us. We knew it was bad for him but with a promising career potential and loving parents/family, friends and girlfriend we thought he had good support system. It saddens the hell out of me to think about it and I reckon it always will but you know what? FUCK him at the same time for doing such a selfish act and leaving all the people who loved him from this world. Seriously, FUCK. My mantra is to forgive but with deep sadness forgiveness seems like a long process.

I can't take any of your *wishes* serious with any of these avatars but I've experienced it personally on both sides. Perhaps just wake up a little bit to what you've told while growing up. Some times you'll realize that there's an entirely different way to live your life than from what the TV tells you how to.

I grew up with Robbins too and this saddens me to hell but think of this. If this was some random person that only had the love from family how would you perceive his suicide?

[Mr. Burns]

Dozy, I'm sorry to read about your relative and your personal experiences regarding your mental health history. I can't go changing your mind on what your opinion is regarding those who do "off themselves", as you're absolutely entitled to your opinion...in these situations, there IS no right or wrong answer.

As i'm sure you can related, and as to what you mentioned it is a journey of personal growth, acceptance and practice which can pull you out of the depths of depression.

Am I perfect today? hell no. But i'm happy, and functional and live a pretty normal life.
I still have my "off days/weeks" but I sure as $hit am better as to what I was like sometime ago for a LONG time, and it took a lot of counceling/group therapy to realize that I had been depressed for MOST of my life.
It's something that (for me) was predisposed in my dna makeup. My grandmother is bi-polar, my cousin is schizo, and depression runs on both sides of my family.

I, however am the first to "attack" this head on. I accept that I am prone to it, and I do not let "tv/social media" tell me how I should feel or react to being "labeled" as someone who has suffered a mental health issue.

In the end tho, it *IS/WAS* my choice to seek help.
It wasn't a "hmm, I feel down, I'll talk to my dr"...it was a WTF is happening to my brain, I literally checked myself in and didn't leave for about 3 week. It was scary as hell, I thought I lost my mind- wanted to literally jump out of my skin.

It's been yrs now, and maintain full time lucrative employment with the Feds, manage a small business of my own on the side, am very active physically with my wife and stepson...on the surface nobody would ever guess or assume this happened to me, but it did.

If there *IS* a silver lining in this whole "Robin Williams" discussion, is that at the very LEAST people are talking about it.

Did it have to take one of the funniest/nicest Hollywood actors to start this? Maybe...

but at least now (and excuse my insensitivity) there IS a face to depression.