F*** college

[Digitalwave]

How so? my 79 college credits are the same thing as 79 credits from any university.

On paper, sure. But your CC credits and AA degree aren't going to mean shit when you are applying for jobs.

Schieder, there is a LOT of money in finance and accounting.

You should stay in high school in my opinion and enjoy the 4 years you have in college. Don't try and get credits out of the way in high school and be one of those geeks that graduates college in 3 years.

[h0lmes]

On paper, sure. But your CC credits and AA degree aren't going to mean shit when you are applying for jobs.

Schieder, there is a LOT of money in finance and accounting.

You should stay in high school in my opinion and enjoy the 4 years you have in college. Don't try and get credits out of the way in high school and be one of those geeks that graduates college in 3 years.

See you guys are missing the whole point, I am getting an AA so I can transfer to a University and get a bachelors. Thats why I wasn't accepted, because I decided to see if I could get in with the credits that I had but they want the full AA. The school is also one of the hardest schools to get into in WA.

[h0lmes]

hes actually right about this. i would base my decision on a couple factors. Keeping in mind (Holmes take note of this) that the general work ethic and amount of competition comprise most of the difference between the students at university and and studnets receiving upper level secondary education (AP or CC). so with that said, you need to ask yourself what you are looking for. both are good from the standpoint that you can build a credit buffer that allows you to disperse some of the university workload.
If you want to immerse yourself in a situation most similar to a university, you need to see if the CC is going to be harder than your AP classes. If your high school has an exceptional AP program, id stay there. BUT...and this is big.... if you cant pull off good scores on the AP tests, go to CC. think about it, if you get a low score on the tests, you only receive so many credits. If you do kinda bad in CC, you still receive all five credits. CC is also good, in that it allows you to build up some of the discipline that is needed for college. remember, they still take attendance in your AP classes. not so for CC. CC is a good indicator of your educational willpower.
and finally.... the girls are always way hotter in high school. CC is filled with young mothers, 30somethings going back to school, and those annoying bitches who have substituted airline luggage for a backpack. best of luck to you in your decision.

Im not in high school...

[AppState325]

dude... you need to take a big step back...and realize that you are attending appalachian state. I bash western cause its mostly kids who cant get into washington, but im sure the community college holmes is attending has a leg up on on your school. honestly....appalachian state?!?! does anybody else remember Deliverance? I bet you are chewing tobacco and sleeping with your sister right now.

dude, you are a fucking tool. ASU has the 2nd best business program in the State, only behind Chapel Hill. ASU is also ranked in the top 100 in the nation. And yes, I can say just about anything I want about getting accepted into schools, I got accepted into WAKE FOREST, ever heard of it?

[hamann318is]

On paper, sure. But your CC credits and AA degree aren't going to mean shit when you are applying for jobs.

Schieder, there is a LOT of money in finance and accounting.

You should stay in high school in my opinion and enjoy the 4 years you have in college. Don't try and get credits out of the way in high school and be one of those geeks that graduates college in 3 years.

Yeah, AP only got those "really benefical" core classes out of my way. How hideous!

I plan on staying here for four years too...

[Schniddy]

man, you're fucking ignorant
in the meantime, STFU n00b

Sorry If I came of ignorant or a smart ass, but by me doing that I think I got the best response out of you since you were defending yourself.

I'm just very interested in economics/finance since I really want to do something in the business world. I know those two majors are perfect if you are planning in going into business or even starting your own business. It's just I've been told that those majors are hard to get a job in after you graduate. ....

"I'm not paying for you to get a BS degree"
“That’s what your uncle majored in now look at him… he’s a painter!”

I guess it just comes down to what I want to do. I used to want to become a scientist like my dad (chemist) or maybe go into computer science, but I’ve realized unless you are REALLY smart its hard to get anywhere in those fields. You get stuck working for a company that sucks you dry, giving you a measly income every year while you profit them millions of dollars (like my father does). He always complains about money and what not. So I’ve been telling myself, why go through all that hard work in college to get that chemistry degree only to be stuck in the rat race the rest of my life? I know there is easy money to be made in the business world if you know what your doing and are willing to make a few educated risks.

[AdironRider]

Well now this has just turned into an e-cock fight.

[Tuanies]

dude... you need to take a big step back...and realize that you are attending appalachian state. I bash western cause its mostly kids who cant get into washington, but im sure the community college holmes is attending has a leg up on on your school. honestly....appalachian state?!?! does anybody else remember Deliverance? I bet you are chewing tobacco and sleeping with your sister right now.

I'll take offense to that. Western is not just for UW rejects. I got accepted into UW, wasn't that hard, but didn't go there because it was a piece of shit school for what I wanted to major in. Western is a great school with a great school for education, engineering, computer science, automotive, and art majors. UW may have a name and be known by your average person, but WWU does its share of things, ie environmental research, alternative automotive energy sources, etc...Don't bash a school you know nothing about, because UW has its share of morons. Western is getting just as hard to get into as UW.

[Tuanies]

CC is not a real college.

On that note I have a question about my future. I'm a junior and basically have enough credits to graduate right now. So I have the option next year to go to CC for half day for two or three days a week ( all expenses paid for by the school) and take a few classes to get them out of the way. They will be in the morning so the second half of my day I’ll come back to my HS and do my 5 core classes I choose.

I would still be able to take at least one AP (economics) class at my high school, but I don’t think I’ll be able to take an AP science class since they are all in the morning. Should I take the classes at CC to get them out of the way so I dont have to worry about them in college or should I take a full day at my HS and possibly take two AP classes next year? I already have chem. And physics out of the way so there is nothing else to take except an AP class.

As a former running start student, I don't really advise that you take it. Sure you get the college credits which are nice. But you get disconnected from HS a bit. Also you get a bit shafted at the Uni since most majors will have a guideline/recommendation you should follow for that specific major. I got a bit screwed on that but catching up. There are merits however as the more credits you get the earlier you get to register/get the classes you want.

[Tuanies]

You'll find out how untrue this is once you try to transfer somewhere.


BUT, it's not just because they're CC credits. Schools are funny about how they calculate how credits transfer from other schools- big, small, private, public, whatever.


Bret.

Actually I went to the same CC, UW, WWU, and all public colleges in WA will take Tacoma Community College credits completely, 1:1. It used to be that 2 years at TCC = guaranteed transfer to UW but UW got overloaded so everyone has to apply like normal transfer students.

[Tuanies]

And one last thing, education is what you make of it. It doesn't matter what school you got it from, if you have an impressive background and have done impressive work in the past, you will easily get a better job than a fresh out of college graduate with no work experiences.

I mean hell, College isn't for everyone and there are people that do quite well off. Take a look at James Crivellone for instances, kicked out of HS, and I bet he makes more than any of you college graduates will after you get your piece of paper.

[Sean]

I took 0 AP classes in high school.

Never had a REAL chem class or a REAL Physics class, and BARELY made it thru Calc I.

Here I am, finishing off my first year at a fairly highly regarded engineering college (ok, it's not huge, but for the cost you can't beat it - South Dakota School of Mines and Technology) and I'm doing alright! I'm thinkin I might pull off a 3.3 at the end of this year. But, never know.

I'm not a wiz at Calc, Physics of Chemistry of that sort. Actually, I kind of suck at all of it.

The way I see, set your mind to do somethin, and it'll happen.

I didn't read about half the thread, since I was un-interested. Just thought I'd share my viewpoint.

Try again next time, and in the meantime, work hard to keep the grades up and maybe apply to more colleges? leave the state, or something. There's lots out there.


Oh...and, I didn't come here for the girls. (there aren't any here.) I'm more concentrated on becoming successful than banging girls. I couldn't worry about girls and do good in school at the same time anyway. lol

[george graves]

Too painful to read the thread - I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if you have ever even had a real job, or even taken a chance to contact professionals in yout biz to get letter fo recomendations?

I'm not usually one to jump on a "your an ass" thread - but you asked for it...

Living in So Cail - I see way too many guys that think they can work the system just like they work daddy. Good luck - my advice - join a sports team, do well - and your alumni will take care of you biz wize.

Enjoy..

[delatlanta1281]

Look, as far as getting a job goes, after college my degree got me in the door, but my work ethic has enabled me to get promoted. I do nothing close to my degree. I got a job out of college as a traveling sales rep, it was a good deal, company car, 37,000 a year 12,000 dollar centerpoint bonus, full medical, cell phone, laptop, corperate card, expense account, and the right to travel. If those of you in college actually think your careers are going to turn out the way you plan, you are sadlly mistaken. Those of you who are 21 or 22, talk to me in ten years. It will be interesting to see what you say then. As far as CC goes. WHO CARES??? The kids in college trying to better himself. You guys are dicks for telling him he isn't "getting" an education. It suck he didn't get the transfer. But jeez. College won't help you get a job if you have no work ethic. And don't give me that crap about CC being less work. College is what you make it. There are PLENTY of people who graduated from my college (A good state university) who aren't doing shit with their degrees. I'm glad I was on scholarship, b/c if I had to pay full price to go to my school only to find out that my degree was used once (to get my foot in the door) I would have assumed go to CC. Now I RUN the entire western sales force for my company. And go figure, I still don't use my degree. College didn't teach me to work hard.... I learned that by watching my parents.

[royalflush313]

I have no idea how the US College system works, but if it's anything close to the Canadian Colleges and Universities, then Community College etc are great place to start.

Where I live, Collges are much much cheaper than Universities. I did 2 years in College and took the courses that are transferrable to the University that I attend now.
I will end up with a BA from one of the best Universities in Canada, and then I will go into Law.
Whether or not I went to a community college and did half of my degree there is absolutely irrelvant once Im done school.