How can the manual transmission be dying

[Mwishlist]

All I have to add is I can not wait to swap my auto. My wife has always driven manual until her current car. I was asking her if she was going to mind when I switched the very over, especially in heavy traffic and she said, "Heck no, you get so used to stick it's like second nature. I never even think about it even in traffic." God I love that woman.

[Stanley Rockafella]

All I have to add is I can not wait to swap my auto. My wife has always driven manual until her current car. I was asking her if she was going to mind when I switched the very over, especially in heavy traffic and she said, "Heck no, you get so used to stick it's like second nature. I never even think about it even in traffic." God I love that woman.

pics or gtfo:hitler:

[slaterd]

All I have to add is I can not wait to swap my auto. My wife has always driven manual until her current car. I was asking her if she was going to mind when I switched the very over, especially in heavy traffic and she said, "Heck no, you get so used to stick it's like second nature. I never even think about it even in traffic." God I love that woman.

Hell same here. My wife's been driving our 99 altima 5 speed for a good 8 months now. She's from France so you have to know how to drive a manual before you get your license.

[mikeedler]

Not really true with new cars here. I work at a dealership and about 70% of the new cars are Automatics.

Years ago, an automatic got much worse fuel economy and the prices of fuel here are very HIGH. Nowadays they are almost better on fuel.

[Stanley Rockafella]

Not really true with new cars here. I work at a dealership and about 70% of the new cars are Automatics.

Years ago, an automatic got much worse fuel economy and the prices of fuel here are very HIGH. Nowadays they are almost better on fuel.

for Germany, that's impressive!

and yes, some autos are better on fuel

[BLACKCHARM88]

Because this...

[e34john]

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/the-decline-of-manual-transmissions-in-two-graphs-%E2%80%94-and-proof-they-re-coming-back-194033483.html

According to that article, there were more manuals made last year than in 2011 and it should grow next year. I just think there are more cars being built and sold. SO those manuals are probably just in bare bones Corollas and Cruzes.

We own an automatic and 3 that aren't. Its so wide open here and we do a lot more freeway driving, that I don't even mind. I mean if I row through the gears 2 or 3 times then shift it into top gear and cruise on the freeway for 30 miles. I don't really care either way for a daily. But I do admit the couple shifts I make do make me pretty happy, except in the morning commute I'm usually too sleepy to notice and at night I am too tired to care.

[e34john]

pics or gtfo:hitler:

Most of the women I dated are like his. Pics should be on here somewhere. I had one a few years back even manage to find herself a 5 speed Camry, late model '10 or '11. I forget.

[cwatt]

We are fat and lazy and ignorant, probably stemming from the laziness.

Don't forget the fat.

[cwatt]

I will take the allison in my truck over the 6spd Manual a dodge diesel for any day of the week for any situation

I couldn't disagree more. Anyone who actually tows will tell you how shit autos are. Why else do semi-trucks and even most 5-tons use manuals. They don't hold up and are never in the correct gearing. Autos have a tendency to overheat when towing 15,000lbs+.

HOWEVER, I drive 1-ton trucks on a daily basis and they're all auto. I've been waxing back and forth when I go to buy a 1-ton diesel myself if I'm going to go manual or auto. I've driven the 6-speed, which is really more of a 5-speed because 1st is so low. Second that with the shift lever beig as long with as much slop and it's not an overly enjoyable driving experience. Vague at best. Furthermore, I would argue it's actually a lot slower 0-60. These new autos with their select-a-gear are a big step up compared to auto-boxes of the past, but I don't personally trust their longevity. So it's a toss up - driving expereince now, trans repairs later?

[cwatt]

Not really true with new cars here. I work at a dealership and about 70% of the new cars are Automatics.

Years ago, an automatic got much worse fuel economy and the prices of fuel here are very HIGH. Nowadays they are almost better on fuel.

Do you work at a Mercedes dealership? If so, that's not really a fair comparison because they're not known for offering manuals. Furthermore, a lot of European auto makers are designing their cars for the US market and are only producing auto transmissions to simplify production. Can you imagine the BMW X-5 in a manual? Epic, yes. But who would buy it? I can't see any of the soccer moms here in Canada going for it.

[estoguy]

Do you work at a Mercedes dealership? If so, that's not really a fair comparison because they're not known for offering manuals. Furthermore, a lot of European auto makers are designing their cars for the US market and are only producing auto transmissions to simplify production. Can you imagine the BMW X-5 in a manual? Epic, yes. But who would buy it? I can't see any of the soccer moms here in Canada going for it.

However, BMW COULD offer it as an option. An X5, diesel, with stick. I couldn't give up my money fast enough.

I hate it that the current BMW diesels have no manual option. Dumb.

[rhE-30]

I bought a newer Tacoma with an automatic... I regret it 100 percent.

[Nairb]

I agree that manual trans are great, and I think they should be more ubiquitous. I think we need less distractions via a center-mounted touch-screen TV and in-flight entertainment and more driving involvement.

I'm not too old, but I have been suffering from joint problems that cause terrible inflammation in my body. The manual trans in my e30 does exacerbate the inflammation and after driving I usually have to "walk out" the stiffness and pain in my knees.

So now, for me at least, the newer paddle-shifted sports auto's are very appealing. I recently drove an 2011 A3 TDI S-Line with H&R Cup coils and the s-tronic tranny was great. Near instantaneous shifting, up or down, and very quiet and smooth at any RPM. Getting out of that car I have a lot less pain.

I am dying for an M-Sport F31 330d with 8-speed paddle-shift. No one here can tell me that it wouldn't be an amazingly fun ride specifically because it doesn't have a manual trans, however a lot of people do have a preference.

EDIT: Pic for reference.

[mrsleeve]

I couldn't disagree more. Anyone who actually tows will tell you how shit autos are. Why else do semi-trucks and even most 5-tons use manuals. They don't hold up and are never in the correct gearing. Autos have a tendency to overheat when towing 15,000lbs+.

HOWEVER, I drive 1-ton trucks on a daily basis and they're all auto. I've been waxing back and forth when I go to buy a 1-ton diesel myself if I'm going to go manual or auto. I've driven the 6-speed, which is really more of a 5-speed because 1st is so low. Second that with the shift lever beig as long with as much slop and it's not an overly enjoyable driving experience. Vague at best. Furthermore, I would argue it's actually a lot slower 0-60. These new autos with their select-a-gear are a big step up compared to auto-boxes of the past, but I don't personally trust their longevity. So it's a toss up - driving expereince now, trans repairs later?

You still dont seem to know what your talking about. HAHA tow a heavy wagon with manual dodge then jump in a Duramax/Ally and make the same trip, you will not set foot in that dodge again........ if you have a choice that is. Biggest reason people buy dodge is COST a cummins with a manual box is much cheaper than a Duramax/ally (my company trucks are normally new auto diesel doges with the occasional ford in the mix they are better than they used to be, but there is a reason my personal shit has an allison)


Allison auots last for fucking ever if you keep them maintenance. The Ally 1000 in my truck is designed to make a lot of heat and handle it, it would not have a grade brake feature in it form the factory now would it, it would not have been standard equipment in many medium duty trucks either if it were not. I have let my truck sit on the limiter and the grade brake for miles coming down out of some mountain passes with 12k plus hooked up, and in my FIL tuck (1 ton DRW) with 16k ish out back. Yup trans temp gets up about 230ish but has no ill effects, cools as soon as you get back to flatter ground and get off the lower gear and get the converter out of lock up, it gets back to a nice 200ish (using the correct ATF helps a bunch when it comes to heat control). We have a 4star siting in the drive that has a GVW a little over 16k, I know a little bit about towing heavy shit in steep country, a lot of that time on gravel and 2 tracks. I will reiterate I will take the ally over the manual any day of the week.

The automagic in larger trucks is a expensive option and the new freightshakers claim better economy with a detroit auto box than conventional. Allison autos have been around for ever they are practically indestructible if you keep up with a decent maintenance routine.