Let's talk about work place ethics I.E Time clock fraud

[mr.vang]

Email one of your local news station about the situation. If they're interested, he'll be out even before the station could even air it. Something like Call Kurtis from CBS Sacramento.

[E30HV]

This absolutely terrible internal control. There should be a clear separation of duties so an employee can't change his time without payroll knowing about it. Like wise payroll should be 'audited' by accounting or HR so that you can't embezzle money like this. I don't see why payroll can't cut him off.

The fact that the owners/CEO don't care makes me question the legitimacy of the business, or your story. It's either blatant unabashed nepotism, or a bull shit story. I can't see payroll or an accountant just let it slide unless they are getting handys from the owner under the table.



If the owner doesn't want to fire him he doesn't have to fire him. If the owner wants to give him a raise he can give him a raise. The employee handbook can be thrown out the window whenever the owner wants. It's not an employment contract.

true.....i remember being told "you get paid to do what you were hire to do!! not to monitor what people do thats not your job" so i took grampas advice "your job is what pays the bills. take care of your job and don't worry about everybody else or you'll go crazy!

[markseven]

So, way more is going on here than what meets your eye. The bamboozler in question has upper management over a barrel, for past transgressions on their part. I would leave with the quickness. Sounds like a completely toxic workplace.

[ST1G]

After digging deeper into it they found that last week alone he manually entered an extra 14hrs of overtime...he only works maybe 8 hours a day. Digging further into they discovered he has done this EVERY SINGLE DAY for as far back as our online time sheets allow us to look. Easily $10-15K worth of hours he never worked just this past year.

This absolutely terrible internal control. There should be a clear separation of duties so an employee can't change his time without payroll knowing about it. Like wise payroll should be 'audited' by accounting or HR so that you can't embezzle money like this. I don't see why payroll can't cut him off.

The fact that the owners/CEO don't care makes me question the legitimacy of the business, or your story. It's either blatant unabashed nepotism, or a bull shit story. I can't see payroll or an accountant just let it slide unless they are getting handys from the owner under the table.

Normally it’s a verbal, than a written and finally termination!! You need to read you company handbook and their policies. My understanding is that falsifying timecard can lead to employment termination.
What’s you tile and his title if you don’t mind me asking?

Save the records and proof you have……you never know you might needed

If the owner doesn't want to fire him he doesn't have to fire him. If the owner wants to give him a raise he can give him a raise. The employee handbook can be thrown out the window whenever the owner wants. It's not an employment contract.

[E30HV]

Normally it’s a verbal, than a written and finally termination!! You need to read you company handbook and their policies. My understanding is that falsifying timecard can lead to employment termination.
What’s you tile and his title if you don’t mind me asking?

Save the records and proof you have……you never know you might needed

[Navarone]

So that's where all my kickstarter money went?!? I want my damn free range, ethical kill, bamboo bike parts!

[jalopi]

something tells me that scuzzbutt is friends with someone in upper management or on the executive level... or went to school with them or something. that's the only explanation i can think of.

welcome to corporate 'Murica!

[UlrichFennec]

I'd say take it to HR. There's no reason this scuzzball should be running the joint.

[Nick_S]

Ya that's fucked up.

Does your company have written policies regarding this? In the world of business, it usually doesn't count unless it's in writing. See what you can find regarding clocking in/out, padding hours, discipline, etc. If you can show that his verbal warning doesn't match the written policies, you've got a firm case.

Also, is your company independent? Or is it owned by a parent company? If it's the latter, you could go outside your building to a corporate HR person and file a complaint.

Good call. I'll look in the employee handbook. It's private, relatively small and fairly new.

[e34john]

What everyone else said, and yea grab me a bike too.

[DER E30]

Why the hell won't they fire the guy!?!?! WTF if it were my company he would be paying back that money! Or in prison! Completely asinine.

[613EDRTY]

Wow that's some bullshit. Have deff fired people over less then that. GL with your boss. Now the question everyone wants answered....what bike company do you work for?

[CorvallisBMW]

Ya that's fucked up.

Does your company have written policies regarding this? In the world of business, it usually doesn't count unless it's in writing. See what you can find regarding clocking in/out, padding hours, discipline, etc. If you can show that his verbal warning doesn't match the written policies, you've got a firm case.

Also, is your company independent? Or is it owned by a parent company? If it's the latter, you could go outside your building to a corporate HR person and file a complaint.

[Nick_S]

Complete bullshit. Unless the money is ridiculous for you, I'd find elsewhere to work. A company like that won't grow much.

Nope, it's a fair wage but could be replaced elsewhere. Going to meet with my boss this week and give them the Me or Him decision.

[mrcheezle19]

Complete bullshit. Unless the money is ridiculous for you, I'd find elsewhere to work. A company like that won't grow much.