The Lion and the dentist

[mrsleeve]

A strange land indeed. Zimbabwe starts with a Zed but it's very close to first on the World List of Fucked Up Countries. It's an easy Google search to find out that the rules start and end with President for Life Mugabe, that even in Africa Zimbabwe is one of the poster children for the production of poster children. The place is so corrupt that a even dentist from middle America would have been able to figure it out that there are no legalities.
Your President just made a speech in Africa that said, basically; "Some of you African leaders need to just fuck off, you disgust me - I'm talking to you, Mugabe."
(Mugabe makes Young Fat Guy in Korea seem like a paragon of democratic leadership, BTW.)

Now, why would you shoot a big male lion?
1/ He's eating our leg.
2/ He's eating your kid's, your sweetie's or your neighbours' leg(s).
3/ You've been hired to shoot lions that are eating peoples' legs.

Why would you fly umpteen thousand miles to shoot a lion?
1/ You have a lot of money and a very, very small and ugly dick.

Male lions do nothing but fuck, sleep, fuck, eat, fuck and fuck. Female lions provide all the food and fucking. That lion had 24 cubs.
I'd give the critter a thumbs up, not a bolt from a crossbow.

Going to another state in the USA or Canadian province that your not familiar with, and has regs that are differing from your local hunting grounds, can be confusing enough let alone going to a completely different country that as you pointed out riff with corruption.

Other wise the rest of that attempt to be clever, fell kinda flat

[AlexHale]

Shame him, let's shame Hemmingway too. Green Hills of Africa anyone? Sport hunting in Africa has along history, and is promoted by almost all governments. While ethically questionable, sport hunting in Africa has many positives as well. Many of the, outrageous to my wallet tag fees, are put towards the betterment of the natives. It's the countries decision to either permit or not allow sport hunting for big game animals. Don't condemn sport hunting in African countries, their culture is different than ours. Not everyone in this world must love be by a American ethics, contrary to what we'd like. But this accident, does se to be negligence on at least two parts. And they will see trial as fit, international crimes aren't easily avoided. Unless your Edward snowden.

[SubDad]

What does flying to another continent to kill a lion have to do with being an eater of dead animals that somebody else killed?
That's a different argument for another day.
Dentist guy didn't go to Africa to kill a chicken for supper.
Did he eat the lion?
He must have been very hungry and have very poor shopping skills, as well as having micro-dick.

[FredK]

I don't think factory farmed animal cruelty is a parallel to luring a lion with meat with the intent of killing him.

But point taken. It is often forgotten how meat arrives on a polystyrene tray, presented in an antiseptic environment at the supermarket.

What is lost on a lot of these Facebook activists is that people that hunt also want to kill quickly. You don't want to have to track an animal by blood drops and then have to carry it out even further from where you are. The side effect of a quick kill is that it is about as humane as you can be while taking the life of another animal.

However, it's not always like that, especially when you're using a more primitive weapon. You only have one shot then any animal will bolt. You may have to track an animal for hours, and tracking is an acquired skill. My wager is that this guy did not want to chase an animal for 40 hours at all. If anything he probably wanted to brag about how he felled a lion with a single bolt.

I think regardless if he had a tag or not that it's irresponsible to kill a protected species. I also think that the reaction on Twitter and Facebook is also a reflection of our society playing a game of moral one-upsmanship with the outcome being a lot of posturing but zero action.

[jalopi]

What does flying to another continent to kill a lion have to do with being an eater of dead animals that somebody else killed?
That's a different argument for another day.
Dentist guy didn't go to Africa to kill a chicken for supper.
Did he eat the lion?
He must have been very hungry and have very poor shopping skills, as well as having micro-dick.

tl;dr

i'm OK with factories that have been specifically engineered to produce meat products, regardless of the living conditions provided to the source of my next meal. i shall judge this person who has slain a lion, of which whom i do not know, while i consume a beef & chicken egg sandwich at tim hortons

[SubDad]

Alexhale, yeah, the guy must be thinking "Of all the animals -rhinos, elephants, lions, etc. - illegally poached in East Africa today, I had to poach the famous one with the radio collar on".

It's the countries decision to either permit or not allow sport hunting for big game animals.

Zimbabwe has no remaining legal system and the GDP of Alpine, Texas.
Kenya has rules but the GDP of Rhode Island ad the land mass of, oh geez, Texas? They can't enforce the rules and deal with bad guys from Somalia at the same time, should dentists take andvantage of that, or think twice?

And they will see trial as fit, international crimes aren't easily avoided. Unless your Edward snowden.

This is not an international crime. Off topic, but there's not really any such thing unlesss you're a nation or a fantastically bad genocidal ex-dictator on the run. Edward Snowden broke local laws and took off, and the USA wants him, but he didn't break "international law".

The dentist knew or should have known that he was doing or was likely to be doing a Bad Thing, and unlucky for him he becomes the, um, poster child for First World Small Dickery Self Entitledness.
I laugh in his general direction

[jalopi]

this couldn't have popped up on my facebook feed at a better time - if ya'll can still stay up on your high horse after watching this then you seriously need your head checked



in 4 the fucker who says "they're just chickens"

[SubDad]

No really, you're not getting it:
African lion killed for strictly for fun.
Not the same as;
Food.

Try this for an analogy;
If I fly out to California and illegally cut down a giant redwood, guided by a local who knew the patrol schedule of the local Rangers, would you say that it's OK because, hey, I mow my lawn every week and they're plants too?

[jalopi]

summary:

it's OK for animals to suffer as long as they serve as my next chick-fil-a sandwich

*clop**clop**clop**clop**clop**clop**clop**clop**c lop*

[SubDad]

it's OK for animals to suffer as long as they serve as my next chick-fil-a sandwich

Nope, not quite.
It's OK for animals to [die mercifully and quickly] as long as they serve as [food][or shoes][or glue][or isinglass][or medical testing][some *useful* purpose].
It's not OK for animals to die as compensation for some guy's limp dick.
It's not OK to treat animals cruelly before death. Like, for instance, flying thousands of miles to shoot them with an arrow (that millenia of human history will tell you won't kill a peak predator quickly and mercifully), followed by days of suffering.
It's not OK to take advantage of a remote country's inability to enforce their own rules to kill an endangered exemplar animal.

[E30 Wagen]

Give it up, SubDad. Analogies can be hard sometimes. They are and will forever be rooted in their ways.

[cale]

Your constant need to talk about his dick with seemingly every post has me concerned, infatuated much?

There's nothing inhumane about bow hunting, any more than shooting.

[kickinindian]

If I fly out to California and illegally cut down a giant redwood, guided by a local who knew the patrol schedule of the local Rangers

dont need to. give them some beer they will go pass out in their truck, and you can steal their chainsaw and their gun and do it no worries...park rangers are not paid enough to care lol.

also at least in my neck of the woods sacramento/ san fran hippies need to STFU about how they think the forest works part of the reason for all these forest fires in cali is they BITCH about everything the park service/forest service/BLM does even though its better in the far future. also FUCK THE SIERRA CLUB! the redwoods are fine they are on a totally different time scale than humans, they will outlive us they are fireproof. /rant

back to ramblings about another already doomed species, being killed by another doomed species.

[jalopi]

Nope, not quite.
It's OK for animals to [die mercifully and quickly] as long as they serve as [food][or shoes][or glue][or isinglass][or medical testing][some *useful* purpose].

did you even watch either of the videos i posted? in what way/shape/form did any of that seem merciful/quick/fair?

can you seroiusly not see or admit that the treatment of these animals is inhumane?

[jalopi]

troll level: god tier

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3182671/Now-Idaho-huntress-taunts-world-sickening-Facebook-brags-killing-old-giraffe-warns-haters-s-come.html