Millenials are they lazy bastards?

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  • gwb72tii
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    There have been studies on the generations that suggest the millennials share most of the characteristics of the WWII generation which has been called the greatest generation.
    Characteristics like believing in tradional values, right vs wrong, pro USA, believe in the constitution, pro-religion, community oriented, and the first generation since the WWII generation where drug usage has declined.
    i'm a boomer. i'm super optimistic about your generation finally getting things back in order. you're starting to get older, have families, realize whatever you get in life is completely up to you and no one else. The next step is political clout that gets rid of, finally, the entitlement class of politicians that have completely screwed things up for everyone,

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  • 4tDX
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    Originally posted by estoguy
    If I had the means, I'd pull my son from school in a second. As a teacher, I see a lot of drivel that gets passed off as education, and it pisses me (and many of my colleagues) off.
    I've read through the common core curriculum and, while I think I understand theory behind it and agree with some of it, in liberal arts I worry that the source material is not enough to present variety of POVs, yet students are asked to provide their own POV or interpretation based on the material and their life experiences... What life experiences?

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  • djjerme
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    Originally posted by Exodus_2pt0
    I think schools and social media are having a bigger hand in raising the ones born 2000+.

    Also, I've noticed the stay at home mommy is making a come back. My Wife raises our child, and will continue to do so. They will be home schooled with the option to go to public high school if they choose. Socialization isn't an issue either, as there's plenty of groups around these days that organize things for the kids and parents to meet.
    Actually though, I am seeing a lot more "Stay at home" or "Work from home" dad's then ever before. I did that for a while, because my wife is in a better position career wise then I at that time. In fact, if it weren't for my contract expiring and having to work for a different company that wanted all dev on site - I'd still be home!

    Hell, if my wife was able to give herself a raise next year to cover close to my salary - I'd go full time stay at home dad in a moments notice!

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  • estoguy
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    Originally posted by Exodus_2pt0
    I think schools and social media are having a bigger hand in raising the ones born 2000+.

    Also, I've noticed the stay at home mommy is making a come back. My Wife raises our child, and will continue to do so. They will be home schooled with the option to go to public high school if they choose. Socialization isn't an issue either, as there's plenty of groups around these days that organize things for the kids and parents to meet.
    If I had the means, I'd pull my son from school in a second. As a teacher, I see a lot of drivel that gets passed off as education, and it pisses me (and many of my colleagues) off.

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  • Exodus_2pt0
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    I think schools and social media are having a bigger hand in raising the ones born 2000+.

    Also, I've noticed the stay at home mommy is making a come back. My Wife raises our child, and will continue to do so. They will be home schooled with the option to go to public high school if they choose. Socialization isn't an issue either, as there's plenty of groups around these days that organize things for the kids and parents to meet.
    Last edited by Exodus_2pt0; 12-11-2015, 04:09 AM.

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  • Dozyproductions
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    Originally posted by 4tDX
    I've made a point of avoiding anything in the realm of politics and religion, but my anger has been rising and I need to vent it somewhere.

    As others have said, each generation thinks the next is shit. In part, I think this stems from the fact that our standard of living has been continuously rising for roughly the past century meaning the subsequent generation "has it so easy". We stand on the shoulders (and necks) of those before us.

    This distribution of wealth conversation is total bullshit, for the most part. In the United States, we live better than Kings and Queens lived just a century ago, even the 'lower' class. Waffle the 1%? We are the 1% of the world! Shove your socialist propaganda up your waffle!

    The previous generations built this amazing infrastructure of physical and technological advancements that we take advantage of today. At least in United States, the supporting mechanisms needed (for the most part) to build our current 'state of things' are no longer needed. The result is that the profile of jobs available has changed which I think also contributes to this idea that the subsequent generation has it easier.

    With that said, I do think things are somewhat easier for our generation because of the availability information and sharing of ideas in a volume that increases on a daily basis. This also leads to more hate put on millennials, because the stupidity of people in our generation can now be instantly shared with the entire world.

    The sharing of ideas does not mean the ideas have any validity. Also, knowing of something, doesn't mean you understand it and as things get ever more advanced and complicated the less people understand. Every word now said is deconstructed by a menagerie of social justice warriors and applies the views of outliers onto a larger population or even entire society. Then governments and associations go chasing after ghost to appease the sheep of society. Meanwhile we never search for or address the root cause of problems in our societies, we just attach things that keep the sheep happy so the political puppets can stay in power.



    Ugh. Had to take micro/macro-aggression classes at work. I can't believe this is a fucking thing.




    ...Feel a smidgen better now.
    Notes: get off m lawn you socialist sheep.

    Who raised the shit millenials? The shitty people before them. It's not like the newer generations can really know what they're missing.

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  • estoguy
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    ^^^^^^

    You, sir, deserve a drink. Well said!

    I read that "microaggression" thing and threw up in my mouth a little.

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  • 4tDX
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    I've made a point of avoiding anything in the realm of politics and religion, but my anger has been rising and I need to vent it somewhere.

    As others have said, each generation thinks the next is shit. In part, I think this stems from the fact that our standard of living has been continuously rising for roughly the past century meaning the subsequent generation "has it so easy". We stand on the shoulders (and necks) of those before us.

    This distribution of wealth conversation is total bullshit, for the most part. In the United States, we live better than Kings and Queens lived just a century ago, even the 'lower' class. Waffle the 1%? We are the 1% of the world! Shove your socialist propaganda up your waffle!

    The previous generations built this amazing infrastructure of physical and technological advancements that we take advantage of today. At least in United States, the supporting mechanisms needed (for the most part) to build our current 'state of things' are no longer needed. The result is that the profile of jobs available has changed which I think also contributes to this idea that the subsequent generation has it easier.

    With that said, I do think things are somewhat easier for our generation because of the availability information and sharing of ideas in a volume that increases on a daily basis. This also leads to more hate put on millennials, because the stupidity of people in our generation can now be instantly shared with the entire world.

    The sharing of ideas does not mean the ideas have any validity. Also, knowing of something, doesn't mean you understand it and as things get ever more advanced and complicated the less people understand. Every word now said is deconstructed by a menagerie of social justice warriors and applies the views of outliers onto a larger population or even entire society. Then governments and associations go chasing after ghost to appease the sheep of society. Meanwhile we never search for or address the root cause of problems in our societies, we just attach things that keep the sheep happy so the political puppets can stay in power.

    Originally posted by GAbOS
    I came across this article today and made me think of this thread.

    Crybullies Say Last Name "Lynch" is a Microaggression
    Ugh. Had to take micro/macro-aggression classes at work. I can't believe this is a fucking thing.




    ...Feel a smidgen better now.

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  • GAbOS
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    I came across this article today and made me think of this thread.

    Crybullies Say Last Name "Lynch" is a Microaggression

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  • doorman
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    Interesting article a co-worker sent me recently.
    We both laughed how it relates to our own kids and school!!

    Getting good grades for "effort" and not doing the work completely/correctly!!

    We have a few 20 something apprentices at work (carpenters/ironworkers).
    They all started a bit "lazy" but seem to be coming around after a year or so of work.

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  • mexocutioner
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    I don't know if we are trying to keep this going or not, but whatever.

    What I have noticed as a millennial, and what I hate most about them, is the entitlement they have (especially in college). College is rammed down our throats. Make kids go to school, choose a path for the rest of their life, and get into huge amounts of debt, when only a year or so before we had to ask to go to the freaking bathroom. And for some, they truly are not mature enough for the environment yet. They don't understand how expensive it is, take huge loans, and party their way out (including me). On the other end, the kids there on mommy and daddy's dime, were overly entitled. These were the kids making fun of those who really did have to work hard to get through life, or to make it into school. Thinking they are better because they spend more on their tuition, than those at a community or branch school saving money on the same degree (and then saying they got there all on their own blows my mind). Making fun of those who chose to work after high school, and maybe go back to school later once they know what they want to study, and are ready to really buckle down and work hard. I see a need for actual laborers/electricians/true hardworking trades. While I was in college, I also noticed many of these people seem looked down upon as well. Why?

    Besides college, I see it in younger kids already. My brother is in middle school, and his friends are just spoiled, entitled little shits, who I absolutely cannot stand to be around. They get what they want, and do what they want, and just complain everything is too hard, or too much work for them. The "no, you do it" attitude. With all the ease in new technology, people are getting lazier and lazier, but where is the entitlement from? There are people who still live in a dirt houses for Christ's sake. Like the others said, take away a teenagers cell phone and they would be helpless in the world. I feel like the next generation is going to have the rudest awakening when it comes time for them to go out on their own. I was definitely lazy before I got out of college, but I know I have been a hard worker at every job I have had, labor or not. I just don't know where all the entitlement comes from in others.

    My bad if the rant is kinda off topic at all, but just my thoughts as I have been tinkering with the idea of learning a trade/going back to school, or just trying to continue my career on through hard work and experience. I mean my father became a successful small business man on his own. My step father worked for B-dubs for 25 years, starting as a fry-cook, working up to a 150k a year position with corporate. You can do it if you put the work into it. I'm just thankful for what I have now. A well paying job, I can afford to eat and keep a roof over my head, and keep a badass car on the road lol.

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  • Das Delfin
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    Originally posted by FLYNAVY
    I think the big issue is that people in their late teens/early 20's are overgrown children. Same for every generation.
    I could point out many baby boomers who do the same thing. It's rare to find someone deserving of being called "adult." Most of them are "a-dolt." (copyright 2015)

    There are many fallacies in the world in which we live. In the grand scheme of things, this really doesn't matter at all. I'm actually interested in what the new generation has to bring to the political table, but don't really want to speculate. I'll just say that at a certain point, things can only get better.

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  • FLYNAVY
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    Originally posted by E30_Pare
    I'm an overgrown child. I like my toys and not of the adult kind.
    nothing wrong with toys, particularly w201's

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  • E30_Pare
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    I'm an overgrown child. I like my toys and not of the adult kind.

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  • FLYNAVY
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    I think the big issue is that people in their late teens/early 20's are overgrown children. Same for every generation. Since this is where the vast numbers of "millenials" are at, maybe it is fair to give them a few more years to mature before casting judgement.

    As an aside, after spending last weekend @ lake tahoe, and seeing all the college kids from CA, I had a minor quarter life crisis after I realized I began college over 14 years ago. That is some fucked up shit…...

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