homebuying fun (caution: stupidly wide .jpg)

[george graves]

Simon, go to habitat for humanity and check out their inventory.

I just for $1000 worth of commercial carpet for $100 at my local habitat . It's going in my "lab" - the stuff is that high traffic, 24" x 24" - so big squares for a 12x15 room that has to deal with the odd dremeling of plastic, laser cutting smells and 3d printing.

[AWDBOB]

AWDBOB do you have a tree where critters can access the rooftop? Looks like something wanted in there, even those 3 tab shingles don't just rip away like that no matter how old. A popped nail through the shingle could definitely start that, but you have something else going on there. If that were a wind event your shingles would be in your neighbor's yard.
Next time consider installing FHA style galvanized flashing's, they will out last you for about the same price. I have rain gutter envy...good luck.

Concur with the above, the shingles won't do that even with extreme wind. Those 3 tabs are also clearly way past the end of their life expectancy coming apart in chunks as they are. Probably some type of animal entry or exit, although they don't usually make large holes like that. Could also be a branch, or even a freak falling object.

They also look like they might be a CertainTeed XT-25 Black, which should be a bit shiny, you can confirm the manufacturer by looking at the plastic release strip on the back of the shingle (if modern enough CertainTeed it will say the roofing collection under a little logo).

To fix that hole you'll want to either pull off a bunch of shingles and replace the wood, or remove 6-9 shingles and put some aluminum flashing down to cover the hole, then felt underlayment (lapped over the non-exposed section of the lower shingle, and tucked under the upper shingle as far as you can go), and then shingles. Be sure to reseal any shingles where you have to break the seal strip.

Also, you could do with replacing those pipe flashings as well, but I wouldn't personally use a metal B vent style (if that's what was meant above) as they are not usually available in anything other than galvanized steel, but rather any aluminum flashing with a neoprene collar (usually called a 3-1 pipe flashing or pipe jack/boot), and I wouldn't seal around the pipe/collar interface as has been done at present.

PM if you want more info to DIY, I work in the roofing industry so I should be able to help.

Thank you both for the info/thoughts! I actually don't have a tree close (which is how the gutters stay clean aside from granules). I also don't have much of an animal problem here, and was just up in the attic wiring cameras a few weeks before this happened and saw no evidence of a critter. Needless to say, I am stumped- I'm hoping insurance comes through, as there is evidence of both hail and wind damage on other parts of the roof. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, despite that I still don't know what could've caused it.

And yes, that shingle was popped there- you can see the nails on the rafter and the bit of rot underneath it. This roof is pretty far gone. I just got done replacing the roof on my garage myself- this is my first home and don't have anyone close by who knows about this stuff, so I am learning as I go. Unfortunately I now know not to trust the inspector stamp of approval next time.

I'm happy with the way the garage roof turned out, but don't have the time or team to tackle the house roof by myself, as it needs some rebracing (sagging rafter), flashings, etc that I'm not quite comfortable with yet.


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image4 (1) by Bobbie Morrone, on Flickr
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[mbonder]

Nice!

[DealinDave@Blunttech.com]

I hate that fake wood paneling. Stupidest fad that ever was in home design. I used to do Residential Contracting full time, pulling wood paneling and spackling/painting for a much cleaner look is pretty common on the houses around here that are older than 1980. Most often the area behind the seams was spray painted black or brown to hide the seam. One time we pulled the paneling down and the installers had spray painted a huge vagina on the wall before installing the paneling. The homeowner was a psychologist and we asked him if there were hidden means behind it. His response: "Everyone likes p*ssy".

I hate wood paneling with a passion. My basement was full of the shit and I just got done ripping most of it out to put up drywall. I didn't get to find any rad artwork on the walls, but the next person that rips down this drywall is going to find a 34 foot long cock and balls. The post war rambler boom here was responsible for a lot of questionable design choices, so a massive dong isn't going to be any worse than the shitpiss puke green/gold/brown tile that is hiding under the carpet down there.

[mbonder]

I hate that fake wood paneling. Stupidest fad that ever was in home design. I used to do Residential Contracting full time, pulling wood paneling and spackling/painting for a much cleaner look is pretty common on the houses around here that are older than 1980. Most often the area behind the seams was spray painted black or brown to hide the seam. One time we pulled the paneling down and the installers had spray painted a huge vagina on the wall before installing the paneling. The homeowner was a psychologist and we asked him if there were hidden means behind it. His response: "Everyone likes p*ssy".

[roguetoaster]

Almost two years into my first home- year one consisted of replacing the garage roof which had just passed three worthless inspections. Halfway through yr two, I caught this out of the corner of my eye when mowing today. It's a bit of a mystery. Popped nail, rotted wood, I'm assuming the shingles just ripped off and there wasn't anything but rot underneath it.

Concur with the above, the shingles won't do that even with extreme wind. Those 3 tabs are also clearly way past the end of their life expectancy coming apart in chunks as they are. Probably some type of animal entry or exit, although they don't usually make large holes like that. Could also be a branch, or even a freak falling object.

They also look like they might be a CertainTeed XT-25 Black, which should be a bit shiny, you can confirm the manufacturer by looking at the plastic release strip on the back of the shingle (if modern enough CertainTeed it will say the roofing collection under a little logo).

To fix that hole you'll want to either pull off a bunch of shingles and replace the wood, or remove 6-9 shingles and put some aluminum flashing down to cover the hole, then felt underlayment (lapped over the non-exposed section of the lower shingle, and tucked under the upper shingle as far as you can go), and then shingles. Be sure to reseal any shingles where you have to break the seal strip.

Also, you could do with replacing those pipe flashings as well, but I wouldn't personally use a metal B vent style (if that's what was meant above) as they are not usually available in anything other than galvanized steel, but rather any aluminum flashing with a neoprene collar (usually called a 3-1 pipe flashing or pipe jack/boot), and I wouldn't seal around the pipe/collar interface as has been done at present.

PM if you want more info to DIY, I work in the roofing industry so I should be able to help.

I was also working on a project tonight on the place I got a month and change ago. Taking out a couple of walls and enlarging the upstairs stairwell access. Leaving a couple of stud sets in place until I build the header setup. I also discovered that all of the wood paneling that's up over the drywall was glued and nailed, so I guess I'll be re-sheeting half of the downstairs, yay.

[mbonder]

Looks to me like a branch went through there.

[bradmer]

I'm assuming the shingles just ripped off and there wasn't anything but rot underneat

Untitled by Bobbie Morrone, on Flickr[/QUOTE]

AWDBOB do you have a tree where critters can access the rooftop? Looks like something wanted in there, even those 3 tab shingles don't just rip away like that no matter how old. A popped nail through the shingle could definitely start that, but you have something else going on there. If that were a wind event your shingles would be in your neighbor's yard.
Next time consider installing FHA style galvanized flashing's, they will out last you for about the same price. I have rain gutter envy...good luck.

[AWDBOB]

Almost two years into my first home- year one consisted of replacing the garage roof which had just passed three worthless inspections. Halfway through yr two, I caught this out of the corner of my eye when mowing today. It's a bit of a mystery. Popped nail, rotted wood, I'm assuming the shingles just ripped off and there wasn't anything but rot underneath it.

Untitled by Bobbie Morrone, on Flickr

[z31maniac]

I have no idea WTF you guys are talking about, but stay close to this thread because I will need to know soon.

https://donpedrobrooklyn.com/ceiling-texture-types/

I'll have to take a picture of the finish on all the walls in my house, it doesn't look like any of them.

[MR E30 325is]

I have no idea WTF you guys are talking about, but stay close to this thread because I will need to know soon.

This is one of my favorite threads on R3v.

Digging out the foundation for a new ~70 sq ft exterior closet addition.

I'll keep y'all updated.

[2mAn]

I have no idea WTF you guys are talking about, but stay close to this thread because I will need to know soon.

[MR E30 325is]

That's what I was referring to as a more modern "knock down" type of texture. He'd have to refinish that whole closet if he went that way though.

I suck at it though... always hire out drywall prep as I don't have the patience for paint-prep work on sheetrock. I'll cut it, hang it, and paint it. But I'll be damned if I'm taping, floating, or texturing. ;)

Gotcha.

I sucked at it until I bought a duplex and was on a tight timeline to get a couple of tenants moved in. All of the recommended guys worth their salt were booked full.

So I asked for a quick lesson from a friend, grabbed the trowel and got to work. By the time I hit the last bedroom in the first unit I was a fucking machine. Hand and shoulder pain was rampant, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look good.

Patchwork, for me, is a breeze as well. Mud is so cheap by the box, compared to that spray can knock down trash, which I can never get to look quite right.

[Schnitzer318is]

Skip trowel, IMO, is the only way to ever finish drywall.

Good stuff 2mAn!

That's what I was referring to as a more modern "knock down" type of texture. He'd have to refinish that whole closet if he went that way though.

I suck at it though... always hire out drywall prep as I don't have the patience for paint-prep work on sheetrock. I'll cut it, hang it, and paint it. But I'll be damned if I'm taping, floating, or texturing. ;)

[MR E30 325is]

At least that wall texture is an easy match. Compared to today's textures that is going to be cake to patch.

Skip trowel, IMO, is the only way to ever finish drywall.

Good stuff 2mAn!