Help need Ingersoll Rand obsolete 19.2v BL192 battery

[parkerbink]

I have three tools from 2007 that use the BL192 battery, a w360 impact, a cordless drill and a ratchet. They all work perfectly (when they have their battery) and after 10 years I need a new battery.

Imagine my shock when I went to buy one only to find they are NLA.

Anyone know someone that can get these? IR's response was the new 20V tools are great.

If I wanted to spend north of 1k on tools I would have.

[roguetoaster]

Since the batteries/series was discontinued in 2015 I'd bet you will only be able to buy used, knock offs, or just install new cells yourself. If you go the latter route you'd really need a special battery spot welder, but the cells are generally cheap.

[parkerbink]

The part that really bothers me is all of the tools are registered. I also have a slew or their air tools and a compressor. Seems when they were discontinuing the line, they might have sent an email or letter saying buy batteries now or have a bunch of paperweights.

Also, their attitude was people disliked the 19.2 line and love the 20v's buy new 20v tools!

I have been searching all day the closest I have come is an eBay seller that refurbs your batteries. Not my first choice.

[parkerbink]

It had been going into error state, now after cooling off it is letting me run the renew cycle.

[roguetoaster]

I've never seen IR cordless stuff at any of the giant swap meets/flea markets near me, so I suspect the market share was really low or their price point was too high for all but serious pros.

In any case, I'd pop open a battery, check the design, and see what cells are within. Be sure to not electrocute yourself in the process.

[parkerbink]

They are all upper range/quality tools. Proof of that is they are 10 years old and work like new (the battery is charging right now.)

I found a place in Australia that says they have them, if I can I'll buy 2.

Thanks.





14v that works fine on the 19v battery

[parkerbink]

I sent a message & have tried to call several times. I get lines are busy. Anyone in Australia that can tell me how to dial this number?

https://www.capsshop.com.au/cordless-tools/accessories/battery-li-ion-19-2v-bl192

I have tried 011 61 8 1800 961 943 and 011 61 8 00 961 943 and 011 61 8 18 961 943

[roguetoaster]

Hope it works out, definitely seems to pay to go up market with cordless.

[Das Delfin]

I wouldn't try messing with lithium ion cells.. that shit can overheat and get dangerous real quick. An older nickel cadmium battery would be easy to rebuild, but you have to be super careful with lithium.

Unfortunately there is a limit to how many times any battery can be cycled, regardless of the chemistry. Li-ion came on a few years ago and everyone loved it because of the run time and weight savings, but NiCd are favored because they can easily be rebuilt and generally can deal with about twice as many cycles as lithium or nickel metal hydride.

Another thing you have to hope for is that the batteries you buy haven't been sitting on a shelf for a long ass time. And that you're actually getting new batteries. Lots of people sell used batteries and pass them off as new. If you find someone who looks reputable, buy as many of these batteries as you can now while they're still relatively fresh.

[parkerbink]

So the response from Australia is because batteries they have to go by sea and it's 600.00. Anyone in Australia able to help? I will happily paypal the cost and a hassle fee for doing me the favor.

[parkerbink]

Good news is Renew worked and the battery is fully charged.

I still need to find batteries.

[flyboyx]

So....the motors in your tools are direct current. They don't care what the voltage is that runs them. They will just spin a little faster with 20volts. Is it possible to modify a new battery to fit your old tools? Or your old tools to fit a new battery?

I understand you wanting to keep going with what you have . I am still using my 20 year old 18v Milwaukee nicad stuff. Awesome awesome awesome tools!!!! I have two good batteries left. I have 4 more dead ones that I can send back to Milwaukee on recall to get free batteries. I know this won't last forever, but I'm gonna milk it till I can't.

[jeffnhiscars]

I drive by an Ingersoll Rand branded tool store every day so will stop by and see if I can find a battery for you.

Am I looking for a BL192 ?

[parkerbink]

So....the motors in your tools are direct current. They don't care what the voltage is that runs them. They will just spin a little faster with 20volts. Is it possible to modify a new battery to fit your old tools? Or your old tools to fit a new battery?

I understand you wanting to keep going with what you have . I am still using my 20 year old 18v Milwaukee nicad stuff. Awesome awesome awesome tools!!!! I have two good batteries left. I have 4 more dead ones that I can send back to Milwaukee on recall to get free batteries. I know this won't last forever, but I'm gonna milk it till I can't.

The problem is they completely changed the form factor, my batteries have a protruding connector that goes inside the handle. The new battery slides on the handle.

The tools are like new, they work perfectly when they have a battery.

I drive by an Ingersoll Rand branded tool store every day so will stop by and see if I can find a battery for you.

Am I looking for a BL192 ?

Yes and thanks!

[roguetoaster]

If you wanted to retrofit a new battery you'd probably need to circumvent the handshake device between the tool and battery in any case.

Swapping Li batteries is slightly more dangerous, but with a shroud/protection and a decent battery spot welder it's safe enough.