Big debate? What do you guys think about nevada making weed legal?

[Lair]

If you really want to solve this country's problems, forget about drugs. Drugs aren't the real problem.

Make reproduction illegal.

At the very least, force prospective parents to take a test, be of a certain age, and have their financial shit together.

You have to get a license before you can drive a car, but any fucking moron can have babies.

That shit kills me.

[blunttech]

you are right, its a stretch comparing those to each other but you know what i mean,,,, little steps. i agree with everything you said and i think exactly alike. you are just able to better explain it than i am,

You're not the only one that thinks this way, but I think you are looking at the wrong things.

First, trying to compare smoking weed to crack, rape, or murder is so far from reasonable it's not worth saying anything else.

Secondly, I aggree that over the last fifty years things have changed in some ways that are negative. However, the last fifty or so years have not gone to shit because the laws have changed to allow for bad shit to happen. In fact, the laws are tighter now than they were fifty years ago. Think about a DUI - 50 years ago if you got pulled over they took you out of the car, kicked you in the butt, and told you to walk home. Now the justice system will SERIOUSLY fuck up your life. Look at the crack downs on underage drinking, and (on point) marijuana use. And what is the result? Not much has changed, it's just now the media and the courts take things more seriously. Now, am I saying driving intoxicated or habbitual drug use is a good idea? No. But I am saying that society is not decaying because of drugs, it is decaying because of the culture.

Look at what the media puts out for everyone to see. Girls look like sluts on every magazine cover, every rap video wants you to "get crunk" or some other shit, and everywhere you look alcohol and drugs are being looked at as bad ass and good. THAT is the problem. Now, can I handle watching some hot bitch act like a slut and see people smoke weed in rap videos and NOT want to act that way? Yeah - but most of the population is really not that smart. I mean for the love of god, we have to actually have a law to make people wear seatbelts when it is BEYOND obvious that wearing one can and will save your life in the event of an accident. People chain smoke cigarettes. Cognitive dissonance is everywhere. But that is for adults. Think about young teens who are watching this shit in the media and are still at an impressionable point in life. These are the people who are going to do some really fucked up shit because of what others are seeing.

So who is ultimately to blame? Parents. But that is another discussion.

Comming full circle - weed is not even a blip on the radar screen as far as what is really fucking up our country. Society needs to become introspective and turn this in on its self instead of laying blame on something that, taken by itself, is not any more harmfull if not less harmful to people and society than things that are already legal in this country.

[featuring france]

Am I the only one seeing the irony here? :D

hah +1

[uofom3]

If you really want to solve this country's problems, forget about drugs. Drugs aren't the real problem.

Make reproduction illegal.

At the very least, force prospective parents to take a test, be of a certain age, and have their financial shit together.

You have to get a license before you can drive a car, but any fucking moron can have babies.

That shit kills me.

hey how about encouraging birth control instead of making sex and the education of it a taboo subject!??!?!? novel idea.

[Avus E30]

Legalization will probably never happen but I agree with LINUS on this one

Legalize it and tax it. Package it and sell it at the liquor stores. Make the same DUI laws still apply, and leave drug testing in place for safety sensitive jobs.

[Lair]

hey how about encouraging birth control instead of making sex and the education of it a taboo subject!??!?!? novel idea.

True that.

Why *in the year 2006* does the US have such an unhealthy attitude about sex?

It's almost as if the powers that be WANT the populace to be ignorant, broke, and pregnant.

[StereoInstaller1]

hey how about encouraging birth control

Anal sex = Natures' birth control.

Luke

[E30 Wagen]

Whoever has quoted my first post, I was mostly referring to 14 year old junior high kids getting a hold of weed from their next door neighbor who sells it to them at double the cost. Next thing you know, they're trading or selling everything they own (and some things that don't belong to them), sneaking around and stealing money from their parents, because they need money to get high after school. Even if it's only one more kid at every junior high school who starts doing this, that's a lot of kids nationwide. Of course, in this scenario, it's the next door neighbor who's at fault, but the point is that if it's legal for him to get weed, then there's less risk involved in distributing it around as opposed to the risk of himself being in possession of it in the first place. I realize things aren't any safer now with alcohol. If some kid really wants beer, he will just steal some from his dad's friend's liquor cabinent or whatever.

My dad is a type I diabetic, so I was raised in an alcohol free house. I just got sick of listening to those kids in highschool proud of how wasted they got last weekend but then almost got caught smoking pot but it was cool because they went over to their friends house and got high there and then they tried to go snowboarding but they didn't really feel like it so after a half hour they went and smoked and drank again and then oh fuck they didn't study for that government test and I probably got a C- on but who gives a shit because next weekend is going to be fucking awesome.

In 11th grade we had this exchange student from Brazil and he was big into weed and extacy and drinking. He thought he was some hot shit, and he was a pretty fun kid, but he was the most annoying, immature ass hole because he thought he was so grown up that he got high in the back seat of a car and then got a bj. Congratufuckenlations. He wanted me to go back to Brazil with him so I could try extacy and go to a rave with all his hot Brazilian girl friends. I was all for the rave and the hot brazilians, but I wanted him to overdose on extacy because he such an arrogant dick. He was in my chemistery class and he just would not shut up.

So, fuck drugs.

Legalizing it won't make things better or worse because eventually things will balance out and we'll just go on with our lives. I just don't understand how legalizing it will improve anything all. Less crime? Bullshit.

[equate975]

http://www.mpp.org/site/c.glKZLeMQIsG/b.2180535/k.3A5B/2006_Elections.htm

Lose

[Charlie]

http://www.mpp.org/site/c.glKZLeMQIs..._Elections.htm

Lose

-Charlie

[nkell09]

http://www.mpp.org/site/c.glKZLeMQIs..._Elections.htm

Lose

:rofl:

[Van Westervelt]

I second the last to posts. HAHA!

[assoutE12]

Oh my fucking god! I figured that would pass for sure.
the only thing that makes any fucking sense is to lower the penelty or make it a lower priority for Law enforcement.

[bimmers4life]

I saw a sign yesterday that said "PORN puts our children in harm's way" (sic)

Yeah. Like some poor fucker jerking off to lez porn is gonna make him uncontrollably go rape 8 year olds.

Just like the bullshit rhetoric that a few hits off of a bong is all of a sudden make us into a nation of "needle slaves". Wow. I smoked virtually daily from the age of 8 (yes, EIGHT) until I was 34, 9 years ago...and yes, I have admitted that I have a problem. I have made a BUNCH of truly stupid mistakes. Is pot at fault? NO! My fucking loser parents that let me run the streets until midnight when I was 10...who didn't make me apply any effort at school...who should have been aware that their kids were smoking pot EVERY DAY...but were too busy living their lives to take the time to shape mine. Or lacked the courage to confront me about it...whatever. That was then, this is now.

The "Moral Decline" of this nation is CAUSED by the PARENTS of this nation.

I have dealt with my issues regarding drug use. I have dealt with my "Moral Decline"...except mine never "declined" I just didn't have any in the first place! I had to make my own, in my mid 30's.

My misspent youth is MY responsibility. I threw away my entire "start" in life. Nothing or no one could ever replace that...or ever take the responsibility away from me.

Was this caused by Pot? FUCK NO! I had no guidance...so now that I can "sort of" function in society, I teach my children. I demand better from them. They are far better people than I was at their ages. I never had rules. My children have rules. I never really talked with my parents...my kids talk with me. Often. Sometimes with damn near complete truth!

Pot has NO known fatalities. It is damn near impossible to overdose on. You are more likely to hallucinate from too much Advil...not to mention NyQuil.

Pot was legal a hundred years ago. Tobacco was not. Opium and Cocaine were legal too. Alcohol was legal, but soon became illegal. When was what that caused our "Moral Decline"?

Was that when Heroin was being prescribed by thousands of doctors around the world to cure damn near everything?

Somehow this discussion of legalization of pot in Nevada became a discussion of "morals"...yeah right. Like smoking pot in general is gonna make someone not pay their bills, lie, cheat on their S/O, become a theif...I don't think so! I think there are plenty of fine people who smoke daily and still maintain excellent live, complete with morals.

Those people who raise their children with love, faith, courage, honesty with or without marijuana are what makes or breaks the moral fiber of this or any other country.

Making pot out to be some great devil is simply focusing the great magnifying glass of a society on a substance instead of focusing on the substance of behaviour of that society.

You want a better society? Look within.

Luke

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[equate975]

+2

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If It wasnt for porn I probably would have raped like 4 people by now.