FJ the big reason behind the banning of DDT was the birds (it woulds weaken the egg shells). They would pick it up in their food from the run off. Lots of countries around the world never stopped using it.
On topic: GW is a bull shit deal this ball of dirt goes through cycles that we have never thought of. The fucking sun controls our temp an it goes through hotter an cooler periods. The ocean currents have more to do with how heat moves around the earth than the wind. The oceans can absorb massive amounts of CO2. How about deforstation of the worlds rain forest not as much CO2 used due to less trees. We as humans MAY have had some impact to the weather but not as much as Al an his Green spouting cronies would lead us to think. I am sorry if this has been covered I didnt read through the whole thread.
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Another thing to consider is DDT. Remember how terrible it was? Everyone got scared into that whole deal, saying that it would cause cancer etc., and it was taken as FACT. Oddly enough, just recently, the ban was lifted, after millions have died of malaria in Africa.
Something to consider.....
Also, professors have been known to eat spoonfulls of the stuff with no negative effects whatsoever.Leave a comment:
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And I'm going to get another v8. Fuck Global warming. I'm going to die anyways... so will my children....at least some of them will eventually get to see "the end". They can thank me for that.Leave a comment:
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the only thing i have to say about this thread is that it seems to support my belief that everyone on the west coast, especially in oregon are a bunch of tree huggers... well atleast marshallmLeave a comment:
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Im going to be honest and say I dont know nearly enough facts to decide the truth about global warming. All I know is that my chimistry professor thinks its the natural cycle of things and that there is no such thing as "global warming" as we know about it.
Personally I figure that a little warmer water wouldnt bother me (I like watersports), and if things get too bad ill move to canada. I'm going to let the experts decide what we should do, im really not in the position to make decisions about it.Leave a comment:
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Your economic reasoning is short to say the least.
High demand , low volumes = high prices
Fair demand , Extreme volumes = low low prices.
So until green living products become plentyfull things will stay the way they are. The goverments all over do not contribute to this by taking away taxing on the green producing companies. So even harder to get the green moving.
The financial world is like a cold war. Don´t upset things as that could
wipe out your financial structure. Alot of companies do not lower prices and do so in the joint understanding from other companies in the same market, if there where to arise a price war the "friendship" would be over and one of the companies would go under. While the other would be forced to maintain low prices. Gains would not be up as margins would be down per product.
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Lets say global warming actually existed.. because it does not.. but I will go along with the discussion as if it did-
Global warming is not my fault. Its the fault of the big corporations and the governments around the world that encourage and permit the use of the dangerous chemicals and toxic pollutants. As the general public we can choose not to buy their products but we don't have many options. We were assimilated into this way of life and this is what we are acustomed to.
We talk all of the time about Americans alone contributing to a great portion of the global warming problem but the average American cannot survive on the "green" lifestyle. Energy alternatives cost 3 times as much as the conventional forms of energy. Why should I spend $30,000 extra on a hybrid car when that same money will buy me TWO cars and plenty of gas?
Until this can make economic sense, nobody will be able to address the problem.Leave a comment:
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It's actually much easier to plot long term general trends than it is to plot specific weather patterns in a local region over the short term.2. They are often wrong about next weeks weather so why would anyone have faith in their long term (50-150 years) predictions.
A meterologist lives two doors up the road from me. :D
He's on TV every day, it's mildly amusing.
As a true Republican AND a realist, I say I believe in global warming, and I believe humans play a part, BUT...I don't care, since nothing TOO bad will happen in my lifetime, and I'm confident that we'll find a way to fix it soon enough. Maybe we can build giant space mirrors? Or alter the orbit of the Earth?
Therefore I will continue to maintain my fleet of cars, one of which is a gas-guzzling V-12 that has buffalo hide leather interior. They also had to chop down a few trees to make it.Leave a comment:
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This thread is just what I needed to get my brain on edge again :)
I'll be in here soon enough!Leave a comment:
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Well I must say, I'm suprised. I didn't realise we had people on this board that can see through the thick muck of political bullshit about GW.........climate change!!!!!Leave a comment:

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