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  • ivo316
    E30 Fanatic
    • Oct 2006
    • 1222

    #16
    Take a look at this, for sure it's a repost, but it shows in images what most are talking about.

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    • 92 mtechnic cabrio
      Honesty is not the best policy!
      • Dec 2003
      • 4907

      #17
      oh nice, haven't seen this before.
      R.I.P 07/01/09 - 04/23/10 :(

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      • LivingLegend06
        E30 Mastermind
        • Dec 2006
        • 1604

        #18
        Originally posted by ivo316
        Take a look at this, for sure it's a repost, but it shows in images what most are talking about.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaK7KhQADSs
        That guy was not driving very good at all, he could have easially shaved a few seconds off if he would have just kept the back end in.

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        • AdironRider
          No R3VLimiter
          • Dec 2004
          • 3491

          #19
          All I know is that my ix understeered massively compared to my 318is.
          Back to my roots

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          • FredK
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 14752

            #20
            Originally posted by FifeDog236
            All I know is that my ix understeered massively compared to my 318is.
            Ah, but with an m42, there is no such thing as power oversteer.

            HAHAHAHA.

            Just kidding.

            Under/oversteer can easily be tuned into/out of a suspension. Sure, stock most cars will be set up for understeer, but that doesn't mean it can't be dialed out with spring rates or sway bar tuning.

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #21
              Originally posted by FifeDog236
              All I know is that my ix understeered massively compared to my 318is.
              well, the VC in your rear diff was fried, your struts were blown, and your front swaybar was broken off. soo... :p

              anyone want to try my -4 degrees of front camber and see if they can get it to understeer on dry pavement? :)
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              • backtrail69
                R3V Elite
                • Jul 2005
                • 4471

                #22
                I am sure all that rust didn't help much esp on the spring perches..
                :: PNW Crew ::
                '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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                • AdironRider
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3491

                  #23
                  Originally posted by nando
                  well, the VC in your rear diff was fried, your struts were blown, and your front swaybar was broken off. soo... :p

                  anyone want to try my -4 degrees of front camber and see if they can get it to understeer on dry pavement? :)

                  By the time you got my car it had been totalled. All that stuff mustve happened during the accident, cause less than a month prior the whole car went over and any repairs it needed were done. It did have rust, but thats what NE does to a car.

                  I dont doubt that an ix with a decent suspension would handle better than my 225k stock one, but still, they do understeer a bit more.
                  Back to my roots

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                  • LivingLegend06
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1604

                    #24
                    Right now I have falcons in the front and federals in the back; I have to try to get my car to understeer.

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FifeDog236
                      By the time you got my car it had been totalled. All that stuff mustve happened during the accident, cause less than a month prior the whole car went over and any repairs it needed were done. It did have rust, but thats what NE does to a car.

                      I dont doubt that an ix with a decent suspension would handle better than my 225k stock one, but still, they do understeer a bit more.
                      I don't think your wheel falling off caused the front swaybar links to rust off, the rear shocks to wear out and the VC in the rear diff to fry. sorry...
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                      • ivo316
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1222

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nando
                        I don't think your wheel falling off caused the front swaybar links to rust off, the rear shocks to wear out and the VC in the rear diff to fry. sorry...

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                        • AdironRider
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 3491

                          #27
                          Considering the car was towed away from the accident on a dolly not a flatbed? That probably sent the vc out. Sway bar links got fucked when the car lost its wheel, I know that for a fact as the car was inspected literally two weeks before, it wouldnt have passed if the sway bar wasnt fine. Shocks couldve been bad and my mechanic missed, but that was over a year ago. Car also dragged itself on the front suspension for a good 30 feet after the wheel fell off, that can do some damage as well. Either way, you bought a totalled car that then proceeded to sit in a impound lot for months cause you couldnt get it shipped. Dont know what else they did to the car to fuck it up, but I sold you the car with all the info I knew. Either way, doesnt change the fact the car was running fine before the accident, and still understeered. I stand by that statement. Im not saying yours doesnt, but it also has some serious work done to its suspension as well.
                          Back to my roots

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #28
                            Originally posted by FifeDog236
                            Considering the car was towed away from the accident on a dolly not a flatbed? That probably sent the vc out. Sway bar links got fucked when the car lost its wheel, I know that for a fact as the car was inspected literally two weeks before, it wouldnt have passed if the sway bar wasnt fine. Shocks couldve been bad and my mechanic missed, but that was over a year ago. Car also dragged itself on the front suspension for a good 30 feet after the wheel fell off, that can do some damage as well. Either way, you bought a totalled car that then proceeded to sit in a impound lot for months cause you couldnt get it shipped. Dont know what else they did to the car to fuck it up, but I sold you the car with all the info I knew. Either way, doesnt change the fact the car was running fine before the accident, and still understeered. I stand by that statement. Im not saying yours doesnt, but it also has some serious work done to its suspension as well.
                            the VC in the rear diff? sorry, no. that would have fried the VC in the transfer case.. not the rear diff. and the VC in the TC was just fine. a dolly won't hurt the ix.

                            it was obvious that the swaybar link had been rusted off for a long time. I'm not trying to hate on you, but I'm not an idiot. your car was just not what I would consider a benchmark to compare other cars with.
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                            • AdironRider
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3491

                              #29
                              My bad, I thought you were talking about the transfer case. I had always heard a dolly was bad for an ix though... Ill agree my car wasnt the nicest either, but it was never going to be that. Really dont know about the sway bars though man, those were good to go the last time I was under the car. Its all good.
                              Back to my roots

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #30
                                yeah, the TC was fine. it's in my car now :p
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