i wish i were 20 again

[CleanAzzE30z]

Your avatar is interesting. WHo is that?


Mariano

[blunttech]

+1
i actually considered going back in the USMC

do it man, i would go with you but my expiration date has been exceeded. i was in the corps in 76.

[CleanAzzE30z]

do it man, i would go with you but my expiration date has been exceeded. i was in the corps in 76.

fuck..... I wasnt even a seed then.


Mariano

[ivo316]

My family has a history of military service, my cousin is in the Marines right now, on a second, voluntary tour of duty along the Syrian border. You want to tell him that? I'm sure He, his father, and my grandfather would love to tell you the contrary.

I plan on joining the Marines after college, so I can be an officer (as per my cousin's reccomendation) and serve my country.

I'm not a fan of many politicians, and I like b(.)(.)bs too...

Hey, If your cousin is in a voluntary tour across the syrian border, or he wants to volunteer to go anywhere, great... He IS a volunteer.

I went to my military service just like any other chilean did at the time, don't get me wrong here, I respect the military, and I know what military life is. (that's 1984-85)

The problem is when politicians try to convince anyone that a nation is dangerous to our (or your) national security when they really are not.
Politicians did this for a long time between Chile and Argentina (as an example) and meanwhile Argentineans kept coming to the beach in Chile, and Chileans kept on going to Buenos Aires for the holidays, half of my family is argentinean just like a lot of families here.

The point here is that your cousin was not trained to be a policeman in Iraq, and that if a marine gets bombed there it might be because the Shiites running the show are being bombed by the sunites, or the Kurds or whoever bombs the shit out of that particular building.

I say ok, the Marines went there, they won, now withdraw and let them sort out their shit, or bomb each other out of existance.

Remeber how many marines died to free France in the second world war, and the socialist french have not supported the US in a sigle thing ever since, Europe is the first to question the USA in whatever issue comes around, even though they owe their very existance to the USA.

I may be wrong about this issue, but loyalty is not a trait in some countries, and when the smoke clears nobody remebers that thousands of 20 year old kids came all the way across the world to die for them. :(

[Kristuphir]

None of you fucktards are qualified to discuss any of this shit.

Luke

Hey, wait a minute...that's the most accurate point made in this thread yet.

problem is, with this particular thing, it kinda seems like NO ONE is...

Except the chick with the beer. I think we can all agree that she is UNIQUELY qualified.

[killa325i]

Your avatar is interesting. WHo is that?


Mariano

mine?

[CleanAzzE30z]

indeed, sir.


Mariano

[Tree18is]

ill try and get some when we go back this Christmas.

[whiltebeitel]

Hey, If your cousin is in a voluntary tour across the syrian border, or he wants to volunteer to go anywhere, great... He IS a volunteer.

I went to my military service just like any other chilean did at the time, don't get me wrong here, I respect the military, and I know what military life is. (that's 1984-85)

The problem is when politicians try to convince anyone that a nation is dangerous to our (or your) national security when they really are not.
Politicians did this for a long time between Chile and Argentina (as an example) and meanwhile Argentineans kept coming to the beach in Chile, and Chileans kept on going to Buenos Aires for the holidays, half of my family is argentinean just like a lot of families here.

The point here is that your cousin was not trained to be a policeman in Iraq, and that if a marine gets bombed there it might be because the Shiites running the show are being bombed by the sunites, or the Kurds or whoever bombs the shit out of that particular building.

I say ok, the Marines went there, they won, now withdraw and let them sort out their shit, or bomb each other out of existance.

Remeber how many marines died to free France in the second world war, and the socialist french have not supported the US in a sigle thing ever since, Europe is the first to question the USA in whatever issue comes around, even though they owe their very existance to the USA.

I may be wrong about this issue, but loyalty is not a trait in some countries, and when the smoke clears nobody remebers that thousands of 20 year old kids came all the way across the world to die for them. :(

Yes, I'm glad you made that clear. I feel others should not speak broadly about volunteers not wanting to do what they do. Required enlistment, such as yours, is a whole different story.

I see what you are saying, and I respect your opinion, but I do not feel that now is the time to leave, as the lack of infrastructure would only allow another dictator to rise up. We can't ignore the problem and expect it to go away.

[FL318is]

Good war, good soliders, bad politicians.

[sticksdaman]

what the hell is a GOOD war? maybe a justified war.....

[killa325i]

indeed, sir.


Mariano

google images FTW

[ivo316]

Yes, I'm glad you made that clear. I feel others should not speak broadly about volunteers not wanting to do what they do. Required enlistment, such as yours, is a whole different story.

I see what you are saying, and I respect your opinion, but I do not feel that now is the time to leave, as the lack of infrastructure would only allow another dictator to rise up. We can't ignore the problem and expect it to go away.

Or another religious freak like the ayatollah, of course someone pointed out rather unpolitely that we are not qualified to discuss this, I'd say we are, on the other hand maybe we are not qualified to find the correct solution, in fact, I feel that to find it we would have to be muslims (I'm still puzzled with what are the actual differences between all the muslim groups in Iraq), but the fact is that they are willing to kill each other over them.
I acknowledge and respect the concern some US citizens show about current foreign affairs, but the thing that concerns me the most is that from our western Catholic/protestant/christian point of view we might be misinterpreting the real issues and needs of the Iraqui population.

"There is no worse solution than the wrong one". And as "infidels", the US marine corps as a whole is a target to any fundamentalist with a grenade, or by that matter the whole USA. I don't think that these groups will ever be dismantled or destroyed, because terrorists fight the coward's war, they can't be identified from the general population, therefore as an unidentified enemy they attack, and also attack civilians on purpose.

Just as info, check out the list of enemies:


Current List of Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations

1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
2. Abu Sayyaf Group
3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
4. Ansar al-Islam
5. Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
6. Asbat al-Ansar
7. Aum Shinrikyo
8. Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
9. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
10. Continuity Irish Republican Army
11. Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group)
12. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
13. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
14. Hizballah (Party of God)
15. Islamic Jihad Group
16. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
17. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
18. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI)
19. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
20. Kahane Chai (Kach)
21. Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
22. Lashkar i Jhangvi
23. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
24. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
25. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
26. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
27. National Liberation Army (ELN)
28. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
29. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
30. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLF)
31. PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
32. al-Qa’ida
33. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
34. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA)
35. Revolutionary Organization 17 November
36. Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
37. Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
38. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network)

I deleted the ones that had nothing to do with the subject...

Source: US Govt.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm

[whiltebeitel]

It seems to be almost like a retaliation for the crusades, and history repeating itself, respectively. catch my drift?

(I personally have a pessimistic view about my ability to affect changes in politics, so I support those I know and care for. This is all I feel I can do at this time.)

[ivo316]

It seems to be almost like a retaliation for the crusades, and history repeating itself, respectively. catch my drift?

(I personally have a pessimistic view about my ability to affect changes in politics, so I support those I know and care for. This is all I feel I can do at this time.)

The fact is that the crusades never finished they have just kept on going on unnoticed to the media, we are told about explosions, but it's like predigism, discrimination and all that, it goes on inside people, and the natural christian - muslim antagonism is just there, inside the fanatics.. :(