I think it's high time tasering be reviewed.

[LEANE30]

I think it's high time everyone tried doing a police officers job.

I guess nobody has ever seen the videos of the people who instantly snap and attack an officer - who start off with an attitude just like this guy, where they think they are above the law. If you are a cop, and you know this person who is fully disobeying your instructions, could pull a weapon at any point, are you going to stand there and let it happen? No, you're not.

If you don't sign your ticket, you get arrested. If you resist arrest, you get physically harmed, like every other fucking idiot in the cop videos. There's a line marked "Not Guilty". Fucking sign it.

actually, that line that says "not guilty" - they always cross out and you are not allowed to sign there, atleast in colorado. i once was pulled over up in the mountains by an officer because a random citizen called in and said that i recklessly passed them when there was oncoming traffic (one lane each way). i told them i was not going to sign the ticket on the line which admits guilt because i did nothing wrong, they told me i either sign it or they'd put me "in the cuffs and take my ass back to their station where we can sit and have a talk till" i decided to sign it.

i eventually went to court (i had to take time out of my schedule to go to court three times) and at the 3rd hearing the citizen who alleged that i committed some kind of crime was called in to testify. i didn't have a lawyer, i just represented myself and the judge threw the case out. no fine, no court costs, nothing..... just wasted multiple hours of my life


it was a prime example of how fucked up the enforcement system has become. cops should have fewer rights. they should have always had fewer then they did too. fucking bureaucracy



cops should have tazers but not guns... or even better yet should be limited to just billyclubs.... or maybe .... ... ... ... ...





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oh, and FYI: the judge said that writing tickets on anonymous call in tips and preforming traffic stops because of nancy little do-gooders is regular department practice. mainly because of drunk drivers.... in this situation it was just some waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles who got their pantys in a bunch

LOL

[Jordan]

Maybe if you weren't such a douchebag, people wouldnt fuck with your jalopys. Honestly, if you are 1/10th as pretentious in real life as you are online, im surprised more shit hasnt happened to you.

Its got nothing to do with me, its just random waste of human skin kids trying to impress their peers. Standard issue bulshit.

I'm sure the 17yr old trailer park kid who slashed my wifes tires only slashed the tires on 15 other vehicles in the neighborhood to hide his true target. Don't be so fucking stupid.


I've also personally called in numerous drunk drivers on the road, and given the dispatcher a play by play for up to half an hour before the drunk:

Crashes into another car
Runs off the road and crashes into nature
etc

Only one time have I actually seen a cop respond in a reasonable amount of time (less than half an hour) and pull the drunk driver over and haul him off.

Or how about one of my old neighbors, who was making/selling meth out of her house. Several cars an hour all day long would drive up, and either she walked out and gave them something or they ran in for 30 seconds and drove off.

I recored plate numbers, took photographs of buyers, even had evidence taken from her trash. Cops didn't care. Oh did I mention she lived off welfare? IE you and I were paying for her drug trafficking.

You can give the cops the sweetest evidence on a silver plater, but you can't make them pull their thumbs out of their ass to take it if it doesn't involve departmental revenue.

Cops can get fucked.

[mtechnik]

Maybe if you weren't such a douchebag, people wouldnt fuck with your jalopys. Honestly, if you are 1/10th as pretentious in real life as you are online, im surprised more shit hasnt happened to you.

Hey my thread isn't supposed to dip that low.
Calm and collected conversation/debate wanted here only

[gazellebeigem3]

I really don't think you understand, I'm not going to explain each case I have against pigs but I'll sum each up for you.


Kid spray paints my 87 e30. He leaves can behind. Gave it to cops to print. Nothing ever done, never returned my can of paint either, "lost it" I don't care about the paint, but come on.. you lose fucking evidence?

Kid props shard of plate glass against my mother M3s rear tire. Thumb and pointer fingers left finger prints clear as day on opposite sides. Gave to cops to print. Nothing ever done.

Kid slashes tires on my wifes 740iL, along with numerous other cars/trucks in the neighborhood. Approximately $4500 total damage (felony vandalism). His friends turn him in, kid denies it, cops don't press charges, everything fucked out of money. Cops won't release his info because he is a minor, with a record of prior similar offenses. (waste of human skin)

Should I go on?

Maybe if you weren't such a douchebag, people wouldnt fuck with your jalopys. Honestly, if you are 1/10th as pretentious in real life as you are online, im surprised more shit hasnt happened to you.

[Ryan Stewart]

You're pissed because a couple hundred bucks worth of stuff that got stolen from you is not worth their time?





And what do you expect them to do? There are different officers for different things. Some are hired to police traffic. Ya, they give tickets for 10 over and that is the law. What would happen if no cops ever wrote tickets?

Dunno, maybe they could actually save lives and fight crime?

I had an experience with a (probably drunk) fucktard trying to run me off the road and going up in the grass on an exit only to fly back onto the highway and nearly hit like 4 people.

I called it in and the cops met me at my destination. Said they didnt need the plate # because 20 other people called it in but that they couldnt do anything because it was a company vehicle and they wouldnt be able to find the guy (despite me giving them a pretty complete description including his shitty tat on his arm).

Cops dont do anything a fucking clerk can do, take a statement and write a report.

And dont even start on highway patrol. Those are the most worthless motherfuckers around. I have yet to see one helping a stranded motorist. The closest thing I have seen is them working and accident. And by working an accident I mean 15 cars, all running, with patrolmen in them. It doesnt take 15 of the fuckers to lay out some flares and wait for a tow truck.

[Firestorm]

horrific audio, wasn't able to hear much of what was said. however, here are my observations.

one of the most dangerous places for police officers to be is standing at your fucking window. why? people driving see the pretty blue lights and start staring over there. then what happens? they absent-mindedly start steering towards them. So I don't have time to debate with you on the side of the fucking road. That's what the goddamn court date is for.

Two, the tape jumped until the officer was making his return to the vehicle with the summons. He may not have run the driver and vehicle info automatically, it's pretty much officer discretion if they choose to do that or not. Next, it appeared the officer did not explain the consequences of not signing the summons - that it was not an admission of guilt and he would be taken into custody and brought before a magistrate if he refused to sign.

Next, if you have a person outside the car on the side of the road, someone you don't know from adam, and he jams his fucking hands in his pockets and starts walking away, that's a problem. Especially if the officer just told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back. He could be grabbing a weapon, could be he's trying to flee, could be that's just a natural posture for him. The officer had no idea what the fucking guy's intentions were. The wife is lucky she didn't get shot. I saw the car door open and thought "oh fuck, this is not going to end well." The guy trying to walk away after being told to turn around and put his hands behind his back justifies the use of force.

Again, as stated earlier Miranda only applies to questioning.

I don't know if the officer ever told the guy how fast he was going. Someone earlier said 48/40. well, that's still speeding. State/local laws vary, but that 100 ft rule may not be the case in your area. It may just be the plane of the sign.


Cliffs Notes: Officer could stand to communicate better but use of force was justified.


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Bingo! Everything said there was perfectly correct, imo.

That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard you say.

Haha, that's saying a far bit then :p

[325Projectz]

Should I go on?

nope.

i had a 2008 chevy quad cab and a 2007 tandum axle dove tail trailer stolen right in front of my house. the most helpful person was the lady that picked up the phone when i first called them in stolen.

after that, i delt with those pos cops. i could tell they thought it was an insurance job, fuck them. they found the rig 30 days later, stripped, 300 miles away.

fortunately, i had just taken my e30 m3 off of the trailer.

but yeah, those cops should have been placed in front of jordon's speeding bus.

[Jordan]

I really don't think you understand, I'm not going to explain each case I have against pigs but I'll sum each up for you.


Kid spray paints my 87 e30. He leaves can behind. Gave it to cops to print. Nothing ever done, never returned my can of paint either, "lost it" I don't care about the paint, but come on.. you lose fucking evidence?

Kid props shard of plate glass against my mother M3s rear tire. Thumb and pointer fingers left finger prints clear as day on opposite sides. Gave to cops to print. Nothing ever done.

Kid slashes tires on my wifes 740iL, along with numerous other cars/trucks in the neighborhood. Approximately $4500 total damage (felony vandalism). His friends turn him in, kid denies it, cops don't press charges, everything fucked out of money. Cops won't release his info because he is a minor, with a record of prior similar offenses. (waste of human skin)

Should I go on?

[uofom3]

Hold on Ted, my violin is in the attic, let me go get it.

haha

[DarkWing6]

Hold on Ted, my violin is in the attic, let me go get it.

We can play the same tune for you and your stolen and vandalized stuff.

[Jordan]

Hold on Ted, my violin is in the attic, let me go get it.

[uofom3]

sure, the few idiots out there who want to drive aggressively and kill themselves/others will do so. but they're going to do that anyway. everyone else will drive at speeds they feel safe at.. which is pretty much what already happens (and rarely matches up with the actual speed limit).

ever drive in canada? they will give tickets if you're being an idiot, but for the most part speed limits are ignored. it's not perfect, but I doubt you'd get harassed for a speeding violation like you do down here.

This argument can be applied to drugs as well. The idiots that want to do drugs will do it regardless, so what's the difference right?

Plays into the drug argument pretty well bringing up Canada:)

[uofom3]

Yeah, I would have much rather seen that traffic stop go that way.

You need to can the 'tude and go for a ride along. If you have already done that, I simply cannot see how you could take this stance.

Don't act like you're a special case... do you think they give a shit about a few hundred dollars worth of anyones property (or maybe even thousands)? Someone out east of Eugene had a SAFE stolen out of their floor! It had THOUSANDS of dollars with of irreplaceable stuff in it. What did the cops say? "We'll do our best." It happens. If something gets jacked that isn't a car/camper/motorcycle and costs less than $500; you can rest soundly assuming it's gone.

However, if you dial 911 because someone is in your house with a gun to your wifes head in the other room, that would likely get their attention. But, since they are a waste of space, I'm sure you're strapped and loco - ready to pull the trigger and defend your actions in court when the smoke clears, right?

People that bitch about cops piss me off. We have all done our fair share of illegal shit, and most of us have been caught at one point or another. But, there is a LOT of shit we have ALL gotten away with that we SHOULD have been busted for. Not a single person is above that. By and large, if you respect the cops and do what they ask, they will eventually either get sick of bothering you or go easier because of you being respectful. They deal with shitbags all day; the people you look down on and don't want in your neighborhood. WTF do you expect them to act like when someone starts giving them tude?

With that said, the guy deserved to get tazed. I mean think about it; you are out on some highway with a guy who is not happy about something and clearly disobeying your directions. You don't know if this guy is using his GF as a drug mule, if he is off his meds, or if he has enough artillary in the back to start a reasonably good sized revolution. The offender didn't listen, got mouthy, physically disobeyed a command, and got tazed. My guess is he will not make the same mistake next time he gets pulled over.

[DarkWing6]

cool, so all the drunks can drive drunk and all the idiots can kill those that are not being dumb. good plan. get rid of traffic tickets all together.

don't get me wrong, i think a lot of dumb tickets are given out and that police officers should focus more on bad drivers and not just speeding, but there is a place for officers writing tickets.

i think anyone that says "the cops didn't drop everything and send the entire squad out to find my stolen car" is just plain ignorant. think about everything that has to be watched and taken care of. they do what they can and there are more important things out there than your stolen stereo or broken windshield.

[nando]

Do you think driving habits would change if there were no cops to enforce the law?

sure, the few idiots out there who want to drive aggressively and kill themselves/others will do so. but they're going to do that anyway. everyone else will drive at speeds they feel safe at.. which is pretty much what already happens (and rarely matches up with the actual speed limit).

ever drive in canada? they will give tickets if you're being an idiot, but for the most part speed limits are ignored. it's not perfect, but I doubt you'd get harassed for a speeding violation like you do down here.