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[Turf1600]

The beauty of school is that I can tear apart your horrible argument here. College doesn't do shit? Right. I agree that it doesn't guarantee anything, and it depends on the work ethic of the person, but saying it doesn't do shit is just stupid. In our country more education = more money. That's a generalization, but it's pretty damn good evidence that you're wrong. Any Tom, Dick or Jane can get a degree, but that doesn't mean they'll excel in that field if it's not what they like.

And about math being bull shit, I'm just dumbfounded by this. Maybe because it's my second major, but that's just ludacris. Without math your job working on cars would not be possible. Math makes our world function like it does.

To the OP: I'm not trying to bash on people who do not go to a college, because that would be dumb too. You've found something you like, and that's all that really matters. I don't doubt that you'll make as much or more than you would have with some 4 year degree. And you'll enjoy going to your job. It really just depends on the person. Me, I'm a math and physics nerd, so I actually enjoy going to those types of classes, and I'll enjoy my career in engineering.

In your first paragraph you just went into more detail on my argument - so thank you. I completely agree. Having that said, I already noted that I need a degree. Unless you own your own business you WILL hit a plateau without a degree. And I never said math was bullshit.

[TwoJ's]

and don't think for one second that college makes you successful. YOU make you successful.

And this is absolutely true.

[TwoJ's]

Just a side note - college doesn't do shit. Period. I was at a strip club the other night and one of the dancers said she had a degree from The university of texas but couldn't find a job. I'm still in school and get paid more than alot of people. Plus, the average college grad makes between 30 and 40k a year. the average college student anticipates nearly 100k salary upon graduation. Jokes on you guys.

The beauty of school is that I can tear apart your horrible argument here. College doesn't do shit? Right. I agree that it doesn't guarantee anything, and it depends on the work ethic of the person, but saying it doesn't do shit is just stupid. In our country more education = more money. That's a generalization, but it's pretty damn good evidence that you're wrong. Any Tom, Dick or Jane can get a degree, but that doesn't mean they'll excel in that field if it's not what they like.

And about math being bull shit, I'm just dumbfounded by this. Maybe because it's my second major, but that's just ludacris. Without math your job working on cars would not be possible. Math makes our world function like it does.

To the OP: I'm not trying to bash on people who do not go to a college, because that would be dumb too. You've found something you like, and that's all that really matters. I don't doubt that you'll make as much or more than you would have with some 4 year degree. And you'll enjoy going to your job. It really just depends on the person. Me, I'm a math and physics nerd, so I actually enjoy going to those types of classes, and I'll enjoy my career in engineering.

[Majikal]

and don't think for one second that college makes you successful. YOU make you successful.

that should be on a fucking hallmark card or something... thats beautiful man. lol

You're right there, college doesnt make you successful, but it damn sure makes it easier for you to become successful. (again, subject to career choice I guess)


Anyways, to OP: Congrats on finding something you like, and stick with that plan you've got going on!

[Turf1600]

depends on your definition of a high horse... you're on the opposite end of the spectrum, he's saying "You need college", you're saying "no you don't"... technically YOU'RE on your own high horse as well as him.
Like it was mentioned, college isn't for everybody,depending on what you want to do with your life... but me, being a full time student of engineering, couldn't do what I wanted in life without college... and yes, I will make substantially more money in my field for going through college... it's a fact.

I also noted that I'm still in college. All I stated was that it's not for everyone - and don't think for one second that college makes you successful. YOU make you successful. That was my whole point. Not that I'm a baller for making it on my own - I'm certainly not. I need a degree for sure.

[dvs909]

Cliffnotes:

You couldn't hack it at a university, went to a tech school, found a career field you enjoy and excel in. Congratulations, would you like a cookie?

As for this:


Wow.


If you want to be a mechanic. Otherwise... no.

Those classes are bullshit. my employer could give a shit if i know the dates that the turks held Jerusalem etc.
and who said you have to have a wife and kids?
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Honda cl175

[Quik325ix]

there are a lot of benefits to going to a 4 year school. Yeah for the most part, a lot of liberal arts stuff is bullshit, but if you do actually find something that interests you while at that school, then awesome. I know i never would have gotten into neuroscience if i hadnt gone to college. Im just saying, college isnt meant for everyone. Tech school isnt meant for everyone. Dont trash people that are in college and are passionate about it and quit being a fucktard about dude man going to a tech school...good on ya for at least learning more about what you are into.

[Majikal]

Either way - college isn't the answer for everyone. Look at the top 10 richest people in the US. Roadsterd needs to get off the high horse.

depends on your definition of a high horse... you're on the opposite end of the spectrum, he's saying "You need college", you're saying "no you don't"... technically YOU'RE on your own high horse as well as him.
Like it was mentioned, college isn't for everybody,depending on what you want to do with your life... but me, being a full time student of engineering, couldn't do what I wanted in life without college... and yes, I will make substantially more money in my field for going through college... it's a fact.

[Julien]

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzzzzz on all that.

[equate975]

If thats the case, take some business classes at night.

Yeah for sure, next year at school its not so intense for auto programs. You get more time to do your few gen eds, which I have already tested out of all of them. So I will have a lot of free time on my hands. I plan on taking a few business classes.

[Turf1600]

Yeah I can totally see that, but thats not my plan. I don't want to work on cars for the rest of my life, that would suck. But if I get into STEP I can get a good solid job I can make money at. Plus, as insane as this sounds, I want to go into STEP to learn about BMWS, I could care less about getting a job at the dealer.

My plan is to work at a dealer for a few years, obviously won't be married or have kids to worry about, so I can save all my money. Then I would like to open my own specialty shop and just run that. I'm not going to be turning a wrench, but telling other people what to do.

If thats the case, take some business classes at night.

[Turf1600]

Either way - college isn't the answer for everyone. Look at the top 10 richest people in the US. Roadsterd needs to get off the high horse.

[equate975]

I've heard it a million times from every mechanic past the age of 30.

"Man, I wish I hadn't dropped out of school to do this, it's great and all when you're young, but when you've got a family, all the hours and the low pay just don't cut it any more. You better not f*ck up and end up like me."

I love working on cars, it makes a great side job as a college student, but you'd be hard pressed to make real money and enjoy what you do 10 years from now.

Yeah I can totally see that, but thats not my plan. I don't want to work on cars for the rest of my life, that would suck. But if I get into STEP I can get a good solid job I can make money at. Plus, as insane as this sounds, I want to go into STEP to learn about BMWS, I could care less about getting a job at the dealer.

My plan is to work at a dealer for a few years, obviously won't be married or have kids to worry about, so I can save all my money. Then I would like to open my own specialty shop and just run that. I'm not going to be turning a wrench, but telling other people what to do.

Edit:

All and all I want to be the next TMS lol. Develop performance parts and make a killing with the online market. I don't want to change oil and align cars my entire life.

[whiltebeitel]

Just a side note - college doesn't do shit. Period. I was at a strip club the other night and one of the dancers said she had a degree from The university of texas but couldn't find a job. I'm still in school and get paid more than alot of people. Plus, the average college grad makes between 30 and 40k a year. the average college student anticipates nearly 100k salary upon graduation. Jokes on you guys.

Liberal Arts degrees are *mostly* BS.

MEEN FTW.

[equate975]

4 years schools are a waste of time unless you want to be a lawyer or something.

I was going for Computer Science and it was stupid as hell. Why do I need to take history for that? Theres no fucking point. Oh I had to take art too, WTF will that EVER do for computer science?

If I didn't have to take like 5 more math classes I would still be in it. 90% of the math I took had no relation to anything I was doing with computers even though all the counselors claimed it did.

Had I just gone to a tech school off the crack I would be done now, and not have wasted all my time and money at a real school.