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    Originally posted by nando View Post
    so basically you're saying you're an idiot with no skills or abilities and you're not capable of getting anything from an education? you should be nicer to yourself.
    Funny - but no. I'm saying a degree won't help that type of person.
    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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      :rofl:

      most of the people in this thread should go back to their school and ask for a refund.
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
      I guarantee you I will make more money, have more benefits, retire wealthier and have better working conditions. Period.
      oh really? are you saying without that peice of paper you're an idiot? can't make it in life? only with that peice of paper can you pursue your dreams?
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
      Really? Can you be a doctor, lawyer, engineer or dentist without a degree? What can you do without a degree that you cannot do with one?
      who said he wants to end up as a doctor, lawyer, engineer or dentist? maybe he doesn't need a degree for his plans. but he's getting a degree anyway to better himself.
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        Originally posted by 325Projectz View Post
        :rofl:

        most of the people in this thread should go back to their school and ask for a refund.

        oh really? are you saying without that peice of paper you're an idiot? can't make it in life? only with that peice of paper can you pursue your dreams?

        who said he wants to end up as a doctor, lawyer, engineer or dentist? maybe he doesn't need a degree for his plans. but he's getting a degree anyway to better himself.
        325 - most of the people in this thread absolutely need a degree to be successful. They clearly lack the aptitude and creativity to be prosperous without one.
        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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          Originally posted by Dave View Post
          i love all the people trying to rationalize underachievement

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            who in here is an under achiever?
            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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              I was an under acheiver. Just do enough to get by. Boy did that fuck me over...
              Hemingway said it best. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

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                Devon - +1
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                Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
                There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                  Originally posted by 325Projectz View Post
                  :rofl:

                  most of the people in this thread should go back to their school and ask for a refund.

                  oh really? are you saying without that peice of paper you're an idiot? can't make it in life? only with that peice of paper can you pursue your dreams?

                  who said he wants to end up as a doctor, lawyer, engineer or dentist? maybe he doesn't need a degree for his plans. but he's getting a degree anyway to better himself.
                  Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

                  No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

                  He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.

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                    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                    Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

                    No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

                    He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.
                    When the fuck did I say there's not a single thing? I said there are equally as many paths to wealth. Don't twist my words to make your point look valid. You haven't proved me wrong on anything at all - you've enjoyed reading everything you have typed.
                    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                      Thats 6 for 6, all 100%
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                        Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                        Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

                        No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

                        He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.
                        thats just it... who says you've made something of yourself once you earn a degree? yay! i got a degree! yay! i'm the fucking man now! yay!

                        you only are what you make of yourself.

                        yeah, you may be one up from those who never plan on getting a degree. and yeah, thats a lot of people in this world. good for you, seriously. but you've got this atitude that makes me think you are only going to be a worker bee in this world. no thanks, that shit is for the birds.
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                          Originally posted by 325Projectz View Post
                          thats just it... who says you've made something of yourself once you earn a degree? yay! i got a degree! yay! i'm the fucking man now! yay!

                          you only are what you make of yourself.

                          yeah, you may be one up from those who never plan on getting a degree. and yeah, thats a lot of people in this world. good for you, seriously. but you've got this atitude that makes me think you are only going to be a worker be in this world. no thanks, that shit is for the birds.
                          x2.
                          "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                            It all comes down to the person,

                            a dingus with a degree WILL not make it in the "field".
                            Attending college and getting a degree is just that. Attending doing the minimum work to get the degree.

                            Now somebody else uses the college education to become whatever they can with the degree or education they have taken,.

                            Same goes for somebody out in the working field. It´s only down to the person itself what will happen in the future.

                            That said.
                            There are LOADS of jobs that you can´t get without the proper degree and some require VERY high marks as well.

                            Aircraft engineer/designer in the public sector.
                            Medical doctors, surgeons and so on,
                            Lawyers. Judges and the lot.
                            Almost all higher positions withing financial structures, banks, loan offices and so on.
                            And SO many more and it´s getting harder and harder. A degree isn´t enough these days. One must show that one already has the ability and experience the employee seeks.

                            To get the good jobs you must excel, and higher education is simply the shortest time to become educated enough to do so.
                            Gunni
                            @ Prodrive / Aston Martin Racing

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                              Originally posted by psloan View Post
                              You assholes also have it hammered into your mind that you have to work for someone your entire life......you guys are dead set on the beaten path to mediocrity.
                              So getting a degree means that you lose ambition and slave away for your employer for the rest of your life? Sounds more synonymous with a blue-collar trade position. Plenty of people with degrees will go on to start their own businesses or corporations or whatever.
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                                just submitted my resumes to lockheed, raytheon, and united technologies.

                                economics/finance major ftw.

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