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Originally posted by blunt View PostYOU can revel in the fact that the conservative party is dead. its all down hill from here. fresh young liberals are being brainwashed in grade school and spoon fed the global warming lie when their brains are much like yours and unable to have an intelligent thought of their own. they will grow up and raise more uninformed little robots who in turn will spout lies and soon the entire world will be like berkEly CA.
Going out to get a plot of land and dig a hole...I'll be in it. See ya later.
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Originally posted by Vedubin01 View Postit looks like it may in in the infancy stages of restricted travel...
Does this make anyone uneasy...or worse?
Soon U.S. Citizens Must Ask for Government Permission to Fly or Travel
Thursday,
February 28, 2008
by: David Gutierrez
(NaturalNews) The Department of Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is moving forward to institute a rule that would require all passengers to go through a government review process before boarding any airplane that takes off or lands anywhere with in the United States.
The U.S. government already requires international passengers to participate in the Advanced Passenger Information System, providing their full name, gender, date of birth, nationality, country of residence, and travel document type and number to the TSA before boarding. Under the proposed Secure Flight Program, this procedure would also be required on domestic flights.
Currently, individual airlines are responsible for checking the passenger manifests against the "no fly" and "enhanced screening" lists provided by the TSA. The new programs are part of a concerted effort to centralize this process, so that the TSA itself will check all supplied information against these lists, and then instruct the airline or airport staff as to how to proceed.
The Association of Corporate Travel Executives (ACTE) has criticized the new Secure Flight rules for their secrecy and lack of accountability. The association has expressed concern that there is no clear appeals process for passengers denied boarding or continually forced to undergo enhanced security screening.
"On the surface, the new Secure Flight program no longer relies on commercial databases and appears to have reduced the number of names on the 'No Fly' list," said ACTE Executive Director Susan Gurley. "It also seems that the responsibility for checking data is no longer abrogated to the airlines. While this is a step in the right direction, it prompts the industry to ask what was the origin of this new data, how is it stored, who has access to it, and how can it be corrected."
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Originally posted by Sean5294 View PostYou have no idea how bad security really is. the only reason nothing has happened is because it has not been attempted. you should see some of the people we now hire. most have no prior education or experience they just have to go through a week long course. just a little comparison for you to see what I mean. I have a Security Manager who's last job was serving food at a resteraunt while I have a Degree in law enforcement and counter terrorism. our turnover is the highest for all government agencies despite what the media tells you. I have been working for the TSA since it was created and I can now say that I wish I never became part of it.
..sorry for my punctuation errors, i have been up since 3am
TSA is retarded as well, but TSA has shit nothing to do (currently) with what keeps us safe.
Our safety is a credit to the men and women in the armed forces who put the lives on the line everyday.
You people would go bat-shit insane if you knew what El Al, the Israeli airline does for every person who purchases a ticket on their planse.PNW Crew
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Originally posted by uofom3 View PostYou are a retard.
TSA is retarded as well, but TSA has shit nothing to do (currently) with what keeps us safe.
Our safety is a credit to the men and women in the armed forces who put the lives on the line everyday.
You people would go bat-shit insane if you knew what El Al, the Israeli airline does for every person who purchases a ticket on their planse.
i have worked with EL Al Security Officials, i know exactly what they do. They Profile, If you have an Islamic name you are automatically questioned, They will ask you if you speak Hebrew and if you say yes than they ask you questions in Hebrew. You are questioned about why you are flying, your occupation, your family and more. Our country would never tolerate any of this because it is to much of an inconvenience (which is why 911 was able to happened in the first place) Your comment about our troops keeping us safe would be true if they were really able to hunt down terrorist, but they are still in Iraq instead of Afghanistan. And before you ask I do have family members fighting in Iraq. Simply calling someone a retard with out knowing them or the facts is quite immature.
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Originally posted by uofom3 View PostI have no problem with this. you shouldn't either unless you have a reason that you shouldn't be getting on a plane. The governments job is to keep us safe, keep the infrastructure healthy, and implement policy that keeps the economy healthy. In no way does infringe on my life, and I fly frequently.
By that same logic we should then put breathalyzers (sp?) in EVERY CAR. I mean if you aren't going to drive drunk, then why does it bother you?
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostI don't know, right to privacy?
By that same logic we should then put breathalyzers (sp?) in EVERY CAR. I mean if you aren't going to drive drunk, then why does it bother you?
It's about not being presumed guilty and having to prove your innocence. I think that's one of the fundamentals of this country, innocent until proven guilty.
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