sign this petition bitches

[Kruzen]

dont vote either

I don't like any of the candidates this year, I don't plan on it.

The oil problems do not stem from where we are sourcing it right now, gas prices went up even when cost per barrel was moving downward. The gas market bases prices on oil futures, not literal costs. Sourcing oil at home won't do anything, if anything it will probably end up being subsidized and further taxed, which will be passed on to the gas prices like it is in foreign countries with their added taxes for road maintenance/other.

[h0lmes]

Blunt, this petition is a joke. I thought you were smarter than that.

It is not that America needs to be less dependent on foreign oil, we need to be less dependent on oil altogether. Drilling in ANWR is not the solution. That will only delay the inevitable. America needs to step up and take a worldwide lead in developing newer and cleaner sources of energy. Take hydrogen for example. It is the most abundant resource in the entire universe. When used as an energy source, it emits harmless water vapor. If one of our hundreds of billionaires would invest a couple hundred million into developing hydrogen into a cheap source of energy, we would never have to worry about energy ever again, EVER! Fossil fuels are long past their peak and I am not even going to get into how much of a joke e85 is. Hydrogen is the future. I suggest we embrace it.

[DSP74]

i dont use punctuation so i have more time to belittle you

My favorite post of all time:nice:

[blunttech]

Blunt, this petition is a joke. I thought you were smarter than that.

It is not that America needs to be less dependent on foreign oil, we need to be less dependent on oil altogether. Drilling in ANWR is not the solution. That will only delay the inevitable. America needs to step up and take a worldwide lead in developing newer and cleaner sources of energy. Take hydrogen for example. It is the most abundant resource in the entire universe. When used as an energy source, it emits harmless water vapor. If one of our hundreds of billionaires would invest a couple hundred million into developing hydrogen into a cheap source of energy, we would never have to worry about energy ever again, EVER! Fossil fuels are long past their peak and I am not even going to get into how much of a joke e85 is. Hydrogen is the future. I suggest we embrace it.

holmes, i like you, or rather i like what youre able to do with your mouth.. but dont assume im stupid. im all for new forms of energy but im living in the real world now. theres no form of energy at the current moment thats as efficient as oil. all im saying is drill for what we have right now as we work on other forms of energy that will free us from our dependence on fossil fuels. i do however need enough to fuel my 02 for maybe another 15 years until i take on my powerchair

[Farbin Kaiber]

Blunt, this petition is a joke. I thought you were smarter than that.

It is not that America needs to be less dependent on foreign oil, we need to be less dependent on oil altogether. Drilling in ANWR is not the solution. That will only delay the inevitable. America needs to step up and take a worldwide lead in developing newer and cleaner sources of energy. Take hydrogen for example. It is the most abundant resource in the entire universe. When used as an energy source, it emits harmless water vapor. If one of our hundreds of billionaires would invest a couple hundred million into developing hydrogen into a cheap source of energy, we would never have to worry about energy ever again, EVER! Fossil fuels are long past their peak and I am not even going to get into how much of a joke e85 is. Hydrogen is the future. I suggest we embrace it.

Or, we just decline to do anything, and, like most "Empires" fall within the next 60 or so years. I don't think the US will hold its spot into the next century.

[george graves]

signed

[hugh jass]

holmes, i like you, or rather i like what youre able to do with your mouth.. but dont assume im stupid. im all for new forms of energy but im living in the real world now. theres no form of energy at the current moment thats as efficient as oil. all im saying is drill for what we have right now as we work on other forms of energy that will free us from our dependence on fossil fuels. i do however need enough to fuel my 02 for maybe another 15 years until i take on my powerchair

it will take 8-10 years for oil from ANWR to hit the market. we could do a lot between now and then to reduce our demand for oil so that drilling in ANWR and other protected areas isn't necessary.
i won't even touch how environmentally damaging oil shale mining is.

[blunttech]

it will take 8-10 years for oil from ANWR to hit the market. we could do a lot between now and then to reduce our demand for oil so that drilling in ANWR and other protected areas isn't necessary.
i won't even touch how environmentally damaging oil shale mining is.

more like 5-6 years and with todays technology we wont even leave a footprint
have you been meeting with harry reid again?

[atomic]

House Subcommittee Rejects Plan to Open U.S. Waters to More Oil Exploration

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365627,00.html

This just in across the wires

WASHINGTON — A House subcommittee on Wednesday rejected a Republican-led effort to open up more U.S. coastal waters to oil exploration.

Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., spearheaded the effort. His proposal would open up U.S. waters between 50 and 200 miles off shore for drilling. The first 50 miles off shore would be left alone.

But the plan failed Wednesday on a 9-6, party-line vote in a House appropriations subcommittee, which was considering the proposal as part of an Interior Department spending package.

With record oil prices and gas prices projected to hover around the $4 mark for the rest of the summer, Republicans have ratcheted up their efforts to open up oil exploration along U.S. coastline. But the long-sought change has so far been unsuccessful.

Most offshore oil production and exploration has been banned since a federal law passed in 1981.

"We are kidding ourselves if we think we can drill our way out of these problems," House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., said during the bill mark-up session.

For his part, Peterson said: "There is no valid reason for Congress to keep the country from energy resources it needs."

"I'm disappointed. I did not expect a partisan vote today. I felt we had a chance of winning this. A lot of Democrats have been talking favorably about my amendment. They know we have to do something. But today was an absolute show of Pelosi power, it was dealt from the top down," Peterson said later, speaking with FOX News, adding he was open to other energy solutions, including wind and solar power.

According to Peterson's office, the U.S. Minerals Management Service estimates that 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic feet of natural gas can be found along the U.S. outer continental shelf, the area affected by the ban.

Peterson is not alone in his desire to open up the shelf. An effort to unlock the resources has been underway in Congress in recent years, and several interest groups are backing the effort, too.

"Tapping America's huge reserve of deep ocean energy helps us fight terrorism and increases our domestic energy supply, which will help put downward pressure on gasoline prices," Greg Schnacke, President of Americans for American Energy, said in a news release, adding: "With Americans suffering at the gas pump and with higher energy bills, it's a no-brainer that the OCS should be developed."

But the proposal has faced staunch opposition from environmental groups from states where the shorelines are under consideration for drilling, like Florida.

Sierra Club lands program director Athan Manuel told a House committee Wednesday that drilling has been unsuccessful in driving costs down.

"The disappointing part about some of the energy policies being promoted (is) that it calls for more drilling when drilling really is the problem. And all we've got to show for pretty aggressive (domestic) drilling for the last 35 years is, again, $4 for a gallon of gas," Manuel said, adding "since the first Arab oil shock in the 1970s, the U.S. has produced almost 90 billion barrels of oil since then, so we've tried drilling our way out of the problem and it just hasn't worked."

Environment Florida spokeswoman Holly Binns told the Media General news group that offshore drilling has no immediate impact on prices.

"It would take anywhere from seven to 10 years to bring those resources to shore — to have any measurable impact on supply,” Binns said, advocating renewable energy sources.

Democrats held their own series of events on Capitol Hill Wednesday to focus attention on global warming and energy independence, but drilling is not on the agenda. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said Tuesday ongoing calls for more drilling "is the Johnny One-Note of the Republican Party."

Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., dismissed the need for oil explanation, speaking with FOX News Wednesday.

"There are 68 million acres right now that is available for exploration right now that the oil companies have — an area the size of Illinois and Georgia. We ought to be focusing on doing that," Blumenauer said, adding that a legal gap he referred to as the "Enron loophole" exempts energy trading from oversight of the U.S. Commodities Futures Trading Commission.

And not surprisingly, the issue has spilled into the ream of presidential politics as well.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., criticized Democrats, including fellow Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., over recent comments Obama made regarding gas prices.

The comments that McConnell referred to were given during an interview with CNBC. Discussing rising gasoline prices, Obama said: "I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing.

Obama also said that "if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly U.S. automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

McConnell, honing in on Obama's referral to "gradual" price increases, said Obama's remarks are evidence that Obama believes "rising gas prices aren't the problem. The problem, he suggested, is that they've gone up too fast. He said he would prefer a gradual adjustment."

He continued: "Whether it's shutting down domestic exploration in large areas both onshore and offshore, instituting a moratorium on oil shale development, increasing the gas tax, or refusing to pursue coal to liquids, Democrats long ago implemented a 'gradual adjustment' on gas prices that's reflected today in the $4.05 Americans are paying for a gallon of gas."

[hugh jass]

and with todays technology we wont even leave a footprint

are you selling oil field equipment now? you sound like you're hustling at a trade show.

[h0lmes]

holmes, i like you, or rather i like what youre able to do with your mouth

I get that a lot.

Or, we just decline to do anything, and, like most "Empires" fall within the next 60 or so years. I don't think the US will hold its spot into the next century.

What are you basing this claim on? If you are talking about China, their economy may be growing, but it is still only a fraction of what ours is. It is also very dependent on the US buying manufactured goods. When our economy hurts, like right now, theirs hurts as well. They won't be overtaking us anytime soon.

As for military, 45% of all defense spending in the world is done by us. China can't hold a stick to our military might. To put it into perspective, the newest fighters rolling out of Russia and China are only comparable to our 35 year old f-15's and f-16's.

All in all, they are a minor threat at most.

[Dave]

are you selling oil field equipment now? you sound like you're hustling at a trade show.

". . . but wait, there's more !!! . . . ."

[blunttech]

we have china drilling 50 miles off the coast of florida and we all know how they stack up against the usa on epa standards. i truly believe the majority of US citizens are drooling mouth breathers that are unable to think on their own and will accept whatever they hear on CNN or MSNBC as gospel.

[Dave]

i truly believe the majority of Republicans are drooling mouth breathers that are unable to think on their own and will accept whatever they hear on FOXNEWS or the EIB Network as gospel.

[metalix1021]

we have china drilling 50 miles off the coast of florida.....

Yet we won't do it ourselves....

So frustrating.

I don't understand the people that say don't drill for oil in Alaska and along our coastlines for the reason of 'oil is not the long term energy solution'. That's like saying don't put on a bandaid because 20 years from now we are just going to amputate anyways.