27 years biatch

[parkerbink]

HEY! Here's a book you can read! See, more people than just you can mention names of books!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Alcoholi.../dp/0688155871

I find it interesting you landed on an AA bashing book. No one referred to how they got sober.

The bottom line is some of us found life is better without mind altering substances, no one has made any mention that it is for anyone else nor did I see any post trying to recruit you nor anyone else.

Why are you so threatened by the idea that sobriety is a good thing and much more importantly why are you trying to get people that are happy sober to drink?

Based on AA principle, you should never eat anything with an orange slice in it ever again OR YOU WILL DIE!

Not enjoy rhetoric? You're crazy.

What do you know of AA principals? How many meetings have you been to? How much literature have you read? Site your references & show your research.

I submit you know little of what AA has done for those in need of their help and are just a scared little boy afraid that he may have a problem.

[DCColegrove]

Based on AA principle, you should never eat anything with an orange slice in it ever again OR YOU WILL DIE!

Not enjoy rhetoric? You're crazy.

Um...

AA's pricipals come from...

Well...

The Bible.

[rwh11385]

You clearly are addicted to rhetoric and arguing. Let's see you not do it for a f'n day.

I have acid reflux, I CAN eat whatever I want but if I DO I have to pay the price of heartburn. Based on your childish argument regarding wine I should ignore it and drink acidic juices & eat meals harmful to me.

My god you just may be the most inane smart person in the world.

Based on AA principle, you should never eat anything with an orange slice in it ever again OR YOU WILL DIE!

Not enjoy rhetoric? You're crazy.

[DCColegrove]

HEY! Here's a book you can read! See, more people than just you can mention names of books!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Alcoholi.../dp/0688155871

In the past 17 years and change I've seen doezens of people die reading books like that.

[rwh11385]

Its this ignorant point of view that helps the drug problem in our country. I love it when people make such sweeping judgements. Makes me feel much smarter. Read up on the Science of addiction, theres been quite a few breakthroughs in the last 5 years. Youll learn that your first sentence is not only extremely offensive to those of us who had the balls and inner strength to recognize and effectively treat the problem, but its also extremely ignorant and absolutely untrue.

Mariano

HEY! Here's a book you can read! See, more people than just you can mention names of books!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Alcoholics-Failed-Marianne-Gilliam/dp/0688155871

From the Author
Empowering yourself
After forcing myself, for over ten years, to adopt a program that didn't feel right to me, I eventually discovered that I was not powerless over alcohol or any of my three other addictions, regardless of what A.A. wanted me to believe. I was, and am in fact, powerful and I learned how to overcome my addictions, in part, by focusing on what was right about myself, as opposed to the twelve step approach that spotlights character defects, wrongs, and shortcomings. While the twelve step route is a valid path for those that it works for, I found an equally valid path. It includes letting go of the endless self-judgments and instead affirming our intrinsic goodness and wholeness. This book is about how I taught myself to harness my own power and how anyone can help themselves to win the battle of addiction. It is a useful book for an addict or any loved one of an addict.

[trashcop 80s 80s]

I'm with heeter. Take a drink, be somebody.

[parkerbink]

Like many gifts he gives, there are benefits but also warnings of abuse. Perhaps it is a test to see who is strong and who is weak and cannot handle such a gift. Sorry to hear you are a fail.

You clearly are addicted to rhetoric and arguing. Let's see you not do it for a f'n day.

I have acid reflux, I CAN eat whatever I want but if I DO I have to pay the price of heartburn. Based on your childish argument regarding wine I should ignore it and drink acidic juices & eat meals harmful to me.

My god you just may be the most inane smart person in the world.

[DCColegrove]

Sad? I am annoyed people are not enjoying what God has given us.

...

Like many gifts he gives, there are benefits but also warnings of abuse. Perhaps it is a test to see who is strong and who is weak and cannot handle such a gift. Sorry to hear you are a fail.

Oh-oh this could get worse.

See what you started Blunt!

[ZM Blue Devil]

Change is difficult in any form. Ism, no ism, moderation or in the gutter, you chose to make a change and stuck to it. For the congrats and continued strength.

[rwh11385]

Sad? I am annoyed people are not enjoying what God has given us.

Psalm 104:14-15
He causes the grass to grow for the cattle,
And vegetation for the service of man,
That he may bring forth food from the earth,

And wine that makes glad the heart of man,
Oil to make his face shine,
And bread which strengthens man's heart.

Genesis 27:28
Therefore may God give you
Of the dew of heaven,
Of the fatness of the earth,
And plenty of grain and wine.

Like many gifts he gives, there are benefits but also warnings of abuse. Perhaps it is a test to see who is strong and who is weak and cannot handle such a gift. Sorry to hear you are a fail.

[Jand3rson]

Telling someone who is seemingly unable to control there drinking that they have a disease which makes it impossible is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, correct?

I do agree with you here, I refuse to believe the socially acceptable label of a "disease" that alcoholism has been given. I think it's total and utter bullshit, and nothing more than a crutch that alcoholics use to justify their behavoir. (Not referring to anyone here).

Alcoholism is not a disease, it's not a sickness, I don't even consider it an ism. It's an addiction, the same with any other drug.

Aside from that, Heeter, this is one instance where I'm going to come right out and tell you to jam it up your ass. You're way out of your usual self-proclaimed "I just spent 4 years at a major university studying business and economy like everyone else, so now I know how every facet of the world works" sphere of rhetoric that you usually pump out. So please, put a sock in it. Just this once.

[allwheeldrive]

congrats Blunt! Its been just about 6 months for me since i quit smoking. Longest period of time in over 12 years. Keep it up man. :D

[parkerbink]

No, but I have trouble, as does Matt Stone and Trey Parker, in understanding people's resolution to give up all hope of control.

Even r3v's own Rick James (Mariano) can responsibly enjoy a beer or two, or 5 liters, and not fall down in the gutter.

Don't assume everyone has a weak of will power as you parkerdink

You know everything, I hope that continues. Unfortunately if you survive to be older you will realize you don't know everything.

I submit the fact that you are making fun of my name, a name based in nonesense that I have hit a chord and you are sad. Blunt, please give the child a hug.

[DCColegrove]

<Dumbass comment> Moderation? </dumbass comment>

Doctors have had a pill to permanently cure it for years...

It's called Sodium Cyanide

[rwh11385]

First it is their.

Second it is not impossible, it is not a disease that can be dealt with using logic. Intelligence is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the cure. The disease tells you you have no disease, it says you can control it.

Third, why so defensive? Does this remind you of someone?

No, but I have trouble, as does Matt Stone and Trey Parker, in understanding people's resolution to give up all hope of control.

Even r3v's own Rick James (Mariano) can responsibly enjoy a beer or two, or 5 liters, and not fall down in the gutter.

Don't assume everyone has a weak of will power as you parkerdink