Sarah Palin, different opinion now.

[Vedubin01]

I can understand people being republican...

Julien

What cant you understand?

[Funkmasta]

I can understand people being republican... But backing up Palin is just a joke.. Seriously.

Julien

Palin is a whack job. Obama is deadly for the US.

[Pinepig]

The Email is complete bullshit.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/707/

[blunttech]

what a bunch of fools. pinepig and me will one day rule the world with handguns and big dicks

[Dave]

http://blip.tv/file/1244925/

God bless him. Sounds to me as if McCain was putting some of the blame for the collapse of the bridge in God's Country(tm) on Sarah and her pork seeking Alaskans.

[ragged325]

Please allow me to use a metaphor to illustrate Palin's relationship with earmarks. If Congress were to shoot a big, gooey load of earmarks across her face, Palin would run for a mirror and a spatula so that she could suck down every salty drop.

[ldsbeaker]

Sooooo, ah...
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[uofom3]

what a bunch of fools. pinepig and me will one day rule the world with handguns and big dicks

count me in on your side.

[eric (^__^)]

James and the Giant Peach?

I just can't believe this, sorry.

[ColdAccord]

if this is true that's fucked up. what a stupid bitch

[uofom3]

If it were true Obiden would be running wild with it - it would be all over every major news network all the time for the next 50 days. It's not real.

[Dave]

She did fire the police chief after he wasted to close the bars at 2am, instead of 5am, which irked some of her contributors. The state personnel board found that to be true, but because he was an at-will employee, she did not have to "just cause".

Bitch claims she cut costs by letting the governor's executive chef go. In fact, the woman was given a political job in the governor's office and then this "reformer" then went on to expense her personal groceries and meal bills. Net result, cost the taxpayers of AK more money, not less. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090803088.html

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/288561.html (scroll down to find this part)


McCain got fucked by the Rove dirty politics machine in 2000, and he so desperately wants it this time. This gamble of his may payoff. I just hope the old fucker doesn't die and/or doesn't give her much authority. Palin is looking to be a dirtbag of the highest degree.

[ragged325]

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Long version

Not a Book Burner

One accusation claims then-Mayor Palin threatened to fire Wasilla’s librarian for refusing to ban books from the town library. Some versions of the rumor come complete with a list of the books that Palin allegedly attempted to ban. Actually, Palin never asked that books be banned; no books were actually banned; and many of the books on the list that Palin supposedly wanted to censor weren't even in print at the time, proving that the list is a fabrication. The librarian was fired, but was told only that Palin felt she didn’t support her. She was re-hired the next day. The librarian never claimed that Palin threatened outright to fire her for refusing to ban books.

It’s true that Palin did raise the issue with Mary Ellen Emmons, Wasilla’s librarian, on at least two occasions, three in some versions. Emmons flatly stated her opposition each time. But, as the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman (Wasilla’s local paper) reported at the time, Palin asked general questions about what Emmons would say if Palin requested that a book be banned. According to Emmons, Palin "was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can't be in the library." Emmons reported that Palin pressed the issue, asking whether Emmons' position would change if residents were picketing the library. Wasilla resident Anne Kilkenny, who was at the meeting, corroborates Emmons' story, telling the Chicago Tribune that "Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?' "

Palin characterized the exchange differently, initially volunteering the episode as an example of discussions with city employees about following her administration's agenda. Palin described her questions to Emmons as “rhetorical,” noting that her questions "were asked in the context of professionalism regarding the library policy that is in place in our city." Actually, true rhetorical questions have implied answers (e.g., “Who do you think you are?”), so Palin probably meant to describe her questions as hypothetical or theoretical. We can't read minds, so it is impossible for us to know whether or not Palin may actually have wanted to ban books from the library or whether she simply wanted to know how her new employees would respond to an instruction from their boss. It is worth noting that, in an update, the Frontiersman points out that no book was ever banned from the library’s shelves.

Palin initially requested Emmons’ resignation, along with those of Wasilla’s other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons’ firing, but said she didn’t feel she had Emmons’ support. The decision caused “a stir” in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e-mail from Kilkenny, “city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.”

As we’ve noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don’t know if Emmons’ resistance to Palin’s questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons’ firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn’t any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian’s backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned.

So what about that list of books targeted for banning, which according to one widely e-mailed version was taken “from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board”? If it was, the library board should take up fortune telling. The list includes the first four Harry Potter books, none of which had been published at the time of the Palin-Emmons conversations. The first wasn't published until 1998. In fact, the list is a simple cut-and-paste job, snatched (complete with typos and the occasional incorrect title) from the Florida Institute of Technology library Web page, which presents the list as “Books banned at one time or another in the United States.”

Update, Sept. 9: We have revised this section dealing with accusations that Palin wanted to ban books from Wasilla's library to include more detail about what transpired at the time.

[Turf1600]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk&feature=user

[Vedubin01]

That is nuts what you guys are going though.


Anyone see this yet?

Biden: Hillary a Better Pick Than Me

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September 10, 2008 5:17 PM
ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., vice presidential nominee, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., Wednesday said that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., might have been a better pick for the position than him.
At a rally in Nashua, N.H., a man in the audience told Biden how glad he was that Obama picked him over Hillary, "not because she's a woman, but because, look at the things she did in the past."
"Make no mistake about this," Biden responded. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate, so let’s get that straight."
Spokesman Ben Porritt offered this response from the McCain camp: "Barack Obama’s most important decision of this election, and Biden -- the candidate he selects -- suggests, himself, that he wasn’t the right man for the job, and that Hillary Clinton would have been a better choice. Biden certainly has a credible viewpoint on this."