Isreal bomb Gaza, killing 195

[Massive Lee]

Hamas has all the power to stop the bombing if they would choose to do it. All the have to do is stop firing rockets into Israel and the Jewish state would not have an excuse to invade Palestinian territory.

You forget that Israel is already occupying Palestinian territories and is well beyond its legal frontiers, depraving Palestinians from the most basic conveniences such as water, ability to work and farm, free deplacements, etc. Practicing what UNO defines clearly as ethnic cleansing. The same thing as Rwanda, Bosnia and Nazi Germany. So, even if Hamas stopped any rocket launching, the problem who still be there. Your assessed status quo, is already well beyond the acceptable. Israel is expanding its territories month after month, creating settlements that looks like any US suburb, even with pools, while Palestinians get water a couple of hours per week, and are forced to stay home. I their own land occupied by another country. Imagine a similar situation occuring in the US. Not many peple would accept being occupied.

The minimal action that would keep Hamas or Hezbollah to stop antagonizing with Israel woud be to revert to the frontiers of 1967. Remember that the United Nations have been asking it for over 40 years, and that Israel hasn't complied yet.

BTW if Israel is so rightfull in its attacks against Lebanese and Palestinians, I wonder why most arab countries don't really feel friendly with them, and why all European countries (in fact, the whole world minus the US) requires Israel to stop bullying its neighbours.

But as we know, peace would mean that the US would not subsidize Israel at a yearly rate of 4.5 Billion $ in diversified weaponnery (numbers for 2002). Not good for business. So does the US really has an intrest in stopping the bloodshed?

[Vedubin01]

Ya, we need to kill more innocent civilians! lets start with you!

You should come try......

[CorvallisBMW]

You should come try......

Hey look, found a picture of ya on the interwebs:

[Chisum]

Wow, racist much?

Can we get the ban stick in here plz?

Reading and comprehension apparently are two entirely different things.

[Chisum]

Hey look, found a picture of ya on the interwebs:

I think this guy went to school in Oriegun. He endrsed Obama, BTW.

[Chisum]

You just might be as crazy as I am...

At any rate...

Good job...

Carry on.

Living in Cali, you sure do need Zen (serious antipsychotics might be needed soon for parts of the state that haven't completely lost their collective mind)
Pretty soon there won't be a government because they've run out of cash. $41 billion deficit. Jesus. Gov. Streudelhead is waaaay worse than Gray Davis ever was.
At least they have their priorities straight in light of the impending doom. Get that Prop 8 circumcized off the state constitution. We'll deal with the implosion of the government as soon as we get the gays all married off.
Then raise taxes! That'll fix things!

Sir, you have my sincerest sympathies.

Are you aware that Nancy Pelosi is pushing a "cash for clunkers" bill that is hoped will take effect Jan. 20 or soon thereafter? Apparently that is part of the stimulous package, they want to "bailout" the auto industry by giving "bonus" payments to people who send their old cars to the crusher. Pretty soon there won't be any E30s left.
Get 'em while they're still here fellas.

[Chisum]

This isn't entirely true. It's the other way around, the Chinese, Japanese and Saudis buy American debt to help bankroll the U.S. You're actually broke.

What I meant was, not that we give the Saudis foreign aid, but that oil revenues basically are their entire economy, which we (the U.S.) likely pay the greatest share. If that is incorrect, pls advise. I think the Saudis likely own huge shares of our country, given the Bush admin is completely beholden to them.
Regarding the U.S., you are spot on friend. We are broke.

[Chisum]

You forget that Israel is already occupying Palestinian territories and is well beyond its legal frontiers, depraving Palestinians from the most basic conveniences such as water, ability to work and farm, free deplacements, etc. Practicing what UNO defines clearly as ethnic cleansing. The same thing as Rwanda, Bosnia and Nazi Germany.

Ooooh I get it now...theta clear...I can almost make it out...I see it!
The jews are actually running concentration camps, with Palestinians as prisioners. You're right! Are the jews making lamp shades out of Palestinian skin? The world needs to know these facts, so we can dust off the Neuremberg chairs and get Spencer Tracy out of the coffin to preside over the war crimes trial.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me.

[bimmer_E30]

fuck stop it for god sakes.....it was 195 a couple of days ago, and now its 300+ dead people!!! fuckin other arab countries do somthing about it!!! get them to stop this..poor people!!!

[joshh]

You are a lunatic and an antisemite. Your words tell the truth. Thankfully, you are in a rubber lined room, Mr. Lynd, but surely there is a job for you at the Daily Kos. Bush may pardon you yet...after all, you were victim of America. America forced you to join Al Quaada and shoot at American soldiers.
A man of your talents really needs a much larger audience, such as at The Daily Kos or Huffington Post. I mean, hell, how many people are reading this thread? 5? 4?
Now that I think about it, I think you might be right when you said 9/11 was our fault. America's chickens were coming home to roost. We deserved it. And how DARE the American infidels punish al quaeda in Afganistan for their righteous action???? Bush is a war criminal.
(Am I getting the mantra right?)
I wonder who is coming up with these death tolls that the "pro-Israel" American media (how fucking stupid do you think we are???) keeps reporting as truth? What bullshit, 400 dead. I love the one TV news where the same palistinian keeps showing up on the TV, each time a little more bloodied and in a different place. What, the palestinians inflating the numbers of dead and wounded to rally the wack jobs who think that shooting 1,000 rockets into Israel is Israel's fault?
Just before the election in Israel too. Imagine that shit. It's like Hamas WANTS this to be as BLOODY as possible, so another limp dick Israeli prime minister gets elected by an electorate suffering from guilt. Not someone like Netanyahu who won't play games with these fucks. I bet Hamas is throwing their own people out the windows, then calling CNN and MSNBC and crying over what these "war criminal" Israelis are doing.
Read Darwin.

Of course I'm an anti semite....just the fact that I'm critical of Israels action immediately makes me antisemite.
At least we can see you really are a wack job.
But go for it, you've been very good at making stuff up so far.
I can only imagine what's going through your head...holy hell this guy isn't crazy, he just disagrees with Israeli action...that just doesn't make sense, he HAS to be antisemite and a crazy fucker...well I'll have to just try to make him look crazy then. Hurts don't it.
Golly, sorry I don't fit your stereo type.

Yes you're right Zionist, Israel hasn't killed a single person over there with their bombing of TV stations, Airports and Police offices. HAIL ISRAEL!!!!!!

[joshh]

Ever wonder why Israel never let's reporters in to record the action. HINT: no it's not just to protect them.

[kronus]

NOT AGREEING WITH ISRAEL'S ACTIONS DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ANTISEMITE FOR ABSOLUTE FUCK'S SAKE. YOU ARE SHEEP THAT HAVE BEEN BLINDFOLDED AND EXPLOITED BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT TO AUTOMATICALLY THINK THAT DISAGREEING WITH THEM MEANS THAT YOU HATE JEWS. THIS IS WHAT GIVES THEM THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT.

<-- my face while reading this thread.

I hate you all. Toodles.

[JMil86]

It's really a matter of trial without jury. And it's not like they are going in and selectively killing only Hamas, they don't give a fuck they will kill all of them.

[Chisum]

Of course I'm an anti semite....just the fact that I'm critical of Israels action immediately makes me antisemite.
At least we can see you really are a wack job.
But go for it, you've been very good at making stuff up so far.
I can only imagine what's going through your head...holy hell this guy isn't crazy, he just disagrees with Israeli action...that just doesn't make sense, he HAS to be antisemite and a crazy fucker...well I'll have to just try to make him look crazy then. Hurts don't it.
Golly, sorry I don't fit your stereo type.

Yes you're right Zionist, Israel hasn't killed a single person over there with their bombing of TV stations, Airports and Police offices. HAIL ISRAEL!!!!!!

There's no question about it. You are an antisemite. Your words prove it. Whatever. You can believe whatever you want. Why try to hide it? Be proud of it.
Speaking of "wackjob" (is that like 'Oddjob' from Goldfinger? Remember the guy with the hat?)
What do you mean, "we" can see who's the wack job? How many people are living inside your brain? More or less, do the different people in your mind vote, then you write what they (or "we") say? Is there one dominant personality that controls you, Mr. Lynd? Try lithium, it may help.
In reality, what Israel does is none of our fucking business. We don't know how many Israelis died in the rocket attacks, all we hear is propaganda meant to manipulate. But really, even if just one Israeli died, everything they have done is justified. Just like if Canada shot a missle at Detroit and one American died, we should make it clear to them that they need to keep track of the people who have their fingers on the trigger. That is their responsiblity. If they refuse to accept that responsibility, then we need to remind them what it means to abdicate responsibility. With daisycutters if need be. Hamas has been given many opportunities to get their shit together. But they have no designs on peace. They want the Israelis to leave the middle east, and that ain't happening. Try to understand. THEY ARE NOT LEAVING.
Look at it this way: Canada has not shot rockets at Detroit. Nor have we to them. So apparently both countries understand that to be good neighbors, you do not shoot fucking rocket bombs at each other. Why is that so hard for Hamas to understand? Do not people with seventh century mentalities understand the meaning of the words "good neighbors"?
Darwin apparently is taking care of those who lack that understanding.

[Chisum]

It's really a matter of trial without jury. And it's not like they are going in and selectively killing only Hamas, they don't give a fuck they will kill all of them.

Sounds like the modus operandi of Adolf Eichmann, doesn't it?
Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out. That was over 10 million dead. Stalin later made Hitler look like a vicar. Oh well, thems the breaks. Freedom isn't free. Peace isn't free. Welcome to the real world. Reality sucks. Then you become a statistic.