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  • joshh
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    • Aug 2004
    • 6195

    #46
    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    One more word about Warner:

    The Steelers had not allowed a 300 yard passer all year, and only four 200 yard passers.

    I haven't looked up the QB ratings for each game against Pittsburgh, but opposing QB's in the regular season had a 63.4 QB rating, throwing for just 12 TD's and 20 INT's in 16 games, completing just 56.5% of their passes for an average of 5.37 yards per attempt.

    Contrast that to the numbers that Warner put up tonight - 112.25 QB rating, 3 TD's and 1 INT, completed 72% of his passes (31/43) and averaged 8.77 yards per attempt.

    Warner washed up? I bet the Vikings are calling him right now, along with about 20 other teams...


    HE LOST! And it was his mistake that put them in that situation. He's done.
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    • E30 Cabrio
      E30 Mastermind
      • Oct 2006
      • 1954

      #47
      Originally posted by joshh
      HE LOST! And it was his mistake that put them in that situation. He's done.
      He's done if he chooses to retire.

      You're possibly the only person who watched the game with that opinion.

      He's done because he threw 3 TD's, 1 INT, 377 yards against the #1 Defense in the league that hadn't allowed a single 300 yard passing game all year and only 4 - 200 yard passing games?

      Explain your logic please.

      Warner threw the pick that resulted in a PIT TD, but there were still 30 minutes of football left which Warner brought his team back and went ahead.

      The Cards Defense failed to hold PIT with a minute to go.

      Want to blame someone, blame # 47 on the Cards D who slipped and gave up a big play, then got beat for the game-winning TD pass.

      But to blame the guy that had the best passing game of the season and possibly in a few years against Pittsburgh defies logic.

      Why anyone would make such a claim is ridiculous.
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      • E30 Cabrio
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        • Oct 2006
        • 1954

        #48
        Originally posted by PhillyG
        Kurt did put up some really good numbers. He's not washed up at all. Whats your point? Lighten up.
        You're the one who started flinging insults, not me.
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        • joshh
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          • Aug 2004
          • 6195

          #49
          Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
          He's done if he chooses to retire.

          You're possibly the only person who watched the game with that opinion.

          I thought he was washed up a few years ago. He made a good resurgence. But proved he really is washed up. He was their weak link today. The Arizona defense held the Steelers to a whopping 20 points. 10 of which were in the begining of the 1st quarter.

          He was acting like the Steelers were all over him every play. When he had many plays he had time to look, he got rid of it way too early.
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          • E30 Cabrio
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2006
            • 1954

            #50
            Originally posted by joshh
            I thought he was washed up a few years ago. He made a good resurgence. But proved he really is washed up. He was their weak link today. The Arizona defense held the Steelers to a whopping 20 points. 10 of which were in the begining of the 1st quarter.

            He was acting like the Steelers were all over him every play. When he had many plays he had time to look, he got rid of it way too early.
            He proved he was washed up by posting a 112.25 QB rating against the #1 Defense in the league, throwing for 3 TD's, 1 INT and 377 yards and with no running game.

            Try again.
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            • delfin
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Nov 2007
              • 1064

              #51
              There was a part there when it looked like the Steeler's check to the refs bounced and they were calling a fair game. Then they must have pushed the check through.
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              • jflip2002
                R3V Elite
                • Sep 2006
                • 4377

                #52
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                Originally posted by blunt
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                • PhillyG
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 754

                  #53
                  Originally posted by delfin
                  There was a part there when it looked like the Steeler's check to the refs bounced and they were calling a fair game. Then they must have pushed the check through.
                  Yeah your fucking oblivious. They had so many bs calls called on them it wasn't even funny.

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                  • joshh
                    R3V OG
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 6195

                    #54
                    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
                    He proved he was washed up by posting a 112.25 QB rating against the #1 Defense in the league, throwing for 3 TD's, 1 INT and 377 yards and with no running game.

                    Try again.


                    Like I said, you can have all the stats you like....he made the big mistake that lost the game (a rookie one at that). The defense held the Steelers to 20 points. Warner couldn't deliver the ball much of the time because he was too afaid of ghosts.
                    He didn't even throw the ball longer than 10 yards till the 4th quarter. And Fitz didn't see a ball till the 3rd quarter...and they showed him open in the first half more than once.
                    He (Warner) was the weak link.
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                    • jflip2002
                      R3V Elite
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4377

                      #55
                      Originally posted by joshh
                      I thought he was washed up a few years ago. He made a good resurgence. But proved he really is washed up. He was their weak link today. The Arizona defense held the Steelers to a whopping 20 points. 10 of which were in the begining of the 1st quarter.

                      He was acting like the Steelers were all over him every play. When he had many plays he had time to look, he got rid of it way too early.
                      Shut the fuck up please. Really... Go... He was far from their weak link. Stats have been posted, and he had an awesome game. They had 33 rushing yards, and the rest was Warner. So its clear what their weak link is. You keep sounding more and more, like you know less and less about football. I dont particularly like Warner... at all. But he played VERY well for the most part.

                      Another stat:
                      414 Kurt Warner, St. Louis vs. Tennessee, XXXIV
                      377 Kurt Warner, Arizona Vs. Pittsburgh, XLIII
                      365 Kurt Warner, St. Louis vs. New England, XXXVI
                      357 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Cincinnati, XXIII
                      Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia vs. New England, XXXIX (FUUUUUCK YEAH DONOVAN!)

                      Second most yards in Superbowl History.

                      One more: Career QB rating in Superbowl History
                      127.8 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games
                      122.8 Jim Plunkett, Oakland-L.A. Raiders, 2 games
                      112.8 Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh, 4 games

                      Kurt Warner was 112.3 today

                      But you know......Hes the weak link.
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                      • jflip2002
                        R3V Elite
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4377

                        #56
                        Originally posted by joshh
                        Like I said, you can have all the stats you like....he made the big mistake that lost the game (a rookie one at that). The defense held the Steelers to 20 points. Warner couldn't deliver the ball much of the time because he was too afaid of ghosts.
                        He didn't even throw the ball longer than 10 yards till the 4th quarter. And Fitz didn't see a ball till the 3rd quarter...and they showed him open in the first half more than once.
                        He (Warner) was the weak link.

                        They didnt throw it deep, because the safeties were playing DEEP. He didnt try to force anything down field. Its evident all the arguments and stats in the world will not overcome the ignorance here.
                        Originally posted by blunt
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                        • joshh
                          R3V OG
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 6195

                          #57
                          Originally posted by jflip2002
                          Shut the fuck up please. Really... Go... He was far from their weak link. Stats have been posted, and he had an awesome game. They had 33 rushing yards, and the rest was Warner. So its clear what their weak link is. You keep sounding more and more, like you know less and less about football. I dont particularly like Warner... at all. But he played VERY well for the most part.

                          Another stat:
                          414 Kurt Warner, St. Louis vs. Tennessee, XXXIV
                          377 Kurt Warner, Arizona Vs. Pittsburgh, XLIII
                          365 Kurt Warner, St. Louis vs. New England, XXXVI
                          357 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Cincinnati, XXIII
                          Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia vs. New England, XXXIX (FUUUUUCK YEAH DONOVAN!)

                          Second most yards in Superbowl History.

                          One more: Career QB rating in Superbowl History
                          127.8 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games
                          122.8 Jim Plunkett, Oakland-L.A. Raiders, 2 games
                          112.8 Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh, 4 games

                          Kurt Warner was 112.3 today

                          But you know......Hes the weak link.


                          Yes 112.3 because he was too scared to throw it any deeper than 10 yards. Thus the high percentage.


                          Originally posted by jflip2002
                          They didnt throw it deep, because the safeties were playing DEEP. He didnt try to force anything down field. Its evident all the arguments and stats in the world will not overcome the ignorance here.


                          WRONG! You mean like where he threw it to Fitz about 20 yards down field in the 4th quarter (64 yarder thanks to Fitz)....the safteys were playing back at that point. And just because the safteys play back doesn't mean you can't throw past 10 yards. As that play showed.
                          He scared himself too much to throw any further till the 4th quarter. Rookie stuff there.
                          And his mistake alone was the difference in them winning or not.
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                          • delfin
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1064

                            #58
                            Originally posted by PhillyG
                            Yeah your fucking oblivious. They had so many bs calls called on them it wasn't even funny.
                            BS calls on the Steelers? I'm glad you're kidding.
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                            • TwoJ's
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4908

                              #59
                              Originally posted by jflip2002
                              So because they lost, hes done? He got them up by 3 points, and the defense couldnt hold. It had NOTHING to do with Warner. If he doesnt come back next year, AZ doesnt make the playoffs. Tom Brady needs to call it quits then, because he lost the big game last year. Every QB who didnt get this far needs to call it quits also.
                              Okay jflip and I don't see eye to eye on pretty much anything, but in this case I am 100% in agreeance with what he said above. I dislike certain teams for certain reasons, but on pretty much any team there is a player (or players) that I admire and who I think deserves a ring. In this case I am not particularly fond of the Cardinals (they are in my teams division [however shitty the NFC west has been lately] so I rooted for them in the playoffs and the superbowl).

                              As for this game, I really don't think it failed to prove anything to us that we didn't already know. We knew Kurt Warner would throw to Fitzgerald for 100+ yards and at least a touchdown. We also knew that Pittsburg's defense would be the difference in this game; if they made big plays they would win. All season long Pittsburg won huge games because of their defense.

                              Despite the fact that I'm a Seahawks fan (and I hate the steelere because of Super Bowl XL), I really have to give respect to the Steelers. They won because of defense, and they had the best defense that I have seen in my lifetime.

                              I thought it was a great game. I wish the Cards would have won, but whatever.

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                              • jflip2002
                                R3V Elite
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 4377

                                #60
                                Originally posted by joshh
                                WRONG! You mean like where he threw it to Fitz about 20 yards down field in the 4th quarter (64 yarder thanks to Fitz)....the safteys were playing back at that point. And just because the safteys play back doesn't mean you can't throw past 10 yards. As that play showed.
                                He scared himself too much to throw any further till the 4th quarter. Rookie stuff there.
                                And his mistake alone was the difference in them winning or not.
                                It was that simple, right? Just all of a sudden he decided, "Hey, Im gonna throw deep". NO. It was an excellent designed play. The safeties were playing deep, and it was a shorter route. The safeties looked to be focused on Boldin or Breaston, running that out route. There was a huge gap up the middle, and they took advantage of it. They started exploiting those deep safeties in general towards the end, like on that Arrington play.

                                I dont get the one play you are saying blew the game. You are referring to the Harrison interception?
                                1) It was a bad throw, on an awesome defensive play
                                2) NO ONE can tackle that motherfucker? People had their chances.
                                3) Arizona was up late in the game, and their defense couldnt get it done. Warner got them up, and did what he could.
                                Originally posted by blunt
                                i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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