USA's Continued Economic Suicide.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Want irony?

A foreign citizen, with a business in a foreign country, that supplies a majority of consumers in US, informing them that their problem has been buying from outside of the US.

[BillBrasky]

this thread is really amazing. we are having an educated discussion about a possibly polarizing issue, and everyone is staying on topic and not slinging insults at each other.

keep it up guys.

/sentimentality

oh and as for my take on this issue: I am a bit prejudiced against american produced products, but only because of their inferiority across many markets and industries that has existed for many years now. If an american company started making superior products, i wouldn't have a problem buying from them instead of a foreign company. its just too bad that doesnt happen too often. I guess Apple and Dell are american...

There are plenty of US based corporations that make products with LEGAL US labor forces. You have to open your eyes and do the research on the products that you buy. Just because we make inferior cars, do not let it jade your opinion towards all American made products. There are many industries that America still leads and continues to make the best quality. You can not go by the products that the average consumer buys at the big box stores. They over-advertise and make it easier for Joe Blow to buy these cheap products over and over again because they are more profitable.

[joshh]

In regard of NAFTA. Do you think the US government would have signed the agreement if the outcome was not beneficiary for them? The US is not known to be philantropic. The problem is that lobbyists are industrials who want immediate benefits. And they got it after lobbying to allow jobs to be exported to Mexico. They make more money, and don't car about losts jobs in their own country. Maybe if lobbyists were evicted from the decision process, these decisions would be in the real interest of Americans. Not just for Bank Street.

NAFTA didn't benefit the US. It benefitted companies looking for cheaper wages. So not only did we lose jobs, we lost product as well.

[Janderson_sucks_dick]

That would be very short sighted as an average 65% of what you pay in a kit comes from California and is therefore made in the US. Maybe it is time you sell your BMW and buy a Neon

Indeed Wilwood calipers are made in house here in Los Angeles.

Designed and built in the USA.

[Massive Lee]

A foreign citizen, with a business in a foreign country, that supplies a majority of consumers in US, informing them that their problem has been buying from outside of the US.

Either you play dumb, or just can't read. There's no irony at all, as there's at least 65% US content in every kit. If you want to be personal, then I'd much prefer you do it by PM instead of jizzing your testosterone all over your keyboard. I kinda start being annoyed by your fairly stupid attacks, and perhaps if you don't have anything constructive to say, well, just STFU.

And if you don't like me personally, then, I just don't give a fuck. Simply don't buy from whom you don't like. Period.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Indeed Wilwood calipers are made in house here in Los Angeles.

Designed and built in the USA.

Had to quote the username. Won't be here long. But the profit margin goes to Canada still.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Either you play dumb, or just don't read. There's no irony at all, as there's at least 65% US content in every kit. If you want to be personal, then I'd much prefer you do it by PM instead of jizzing your testosterone all over your keyboard. I kinda start being annoyed by your fairly stupid attacks, and perhaps if you don't have anything constructive to say, well, just STFU.

And if you don't like me personally, then, I just don't give a fuck. Simply don't buy from whom you don't like. Period.

Huh? Yeah, but you buy the products at cost in the USA, then take the profit margin to Canada. I have no issue with you, we are just talking, don't get a unddie-bunching incident going on man.


And, don't worry, You don't sell any products I need. I know you haven't cornered the market on Dodge Neon BBK's. Yet.

[BlueJ85]

A foreign citizen, with a business in a foreign country, that supplies a majority of consumers in US, informing them that their problem has been buying from outside of the US.

I'm not entirely arguing with you either...I just think it's funny that we are talking about keeping things in the US and yet we drive foreign cars.

And like I said, it is a global economy so it all works together for the most part...don't horde your money because you're scared of a depression, or not spend it because you can't find anything purely American-made--that won't help...

[Farbin Kaiber]

The global economy you speak of has become our undoing.

[Janderson_sucks_dick]

A foreign citizen, with a business in a foreign country, that supplies a majority of consumers in US, informing them that their problem has been buying from outside of the US.

Are you kidding?

A foreign company selling you locally made goods is helping you becuase they are keeping the local business alive.

Who cares if Massive is in Canada. He buys calipers/pads/brake lines that are made in the USA.

Think buying an F150 made in Mexico is bad? It's bad because its not made here in USA, but its good because the company that is making it is though.

Best case of course is to have complete local vertical business models. But i think that is hard to come by nowadys.

[Need4Speed]

True, I do drive German built cars and on one hand I am ashamed of that. On the other hand I am willing and I do pay extra for USA made when ever possible.

[nando]

NAFTA didn't benefit the US. It benefitted companies looking for cheaper wages. So not only did we lose jobs, we lost product as well.

and it benefited poor workers in mexico, improving their standard of living and their demand for things made elsewhere (like american made goods which are considerd luxurious).

mexico is still a shithole, but it's a lot better off now than it was before. we should be trading with them and improving their standard of living wherever we can. I can imagine how much worse it would be if we decided we weren't going to trade with them at all and "buy american".

I guess we shouldn't buy canadian, but french queubec doesn't need us either right Lee?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Are you kidding?

Nope, My issue was with the profits leaving the US, which in turn, means, less investment from each purchase with a foreign profit because the extra money never reaches our infrastructure.


( I know some of the stuff was made in the US, then sold Wholesale, with no tax revenue to the US )

So, no tax income, and no profit being brought back into the Federal economy.

[joshh]

and it benefited poor workers in mexico, improving their standard of living and their demand for things made elsewhere (like american made goods which are considerd luxurious).

mexico is still a shithole, but it's a lot better off now than it was before. we should be trading with them and improving their standard of living wherever we can. I can imagine how much worse it would be if we decided we weren't going to trade with them at all and "buy american".

I guess we shouldn't buy canadian, but french queubec doesn't need us either right Lee?

And this is part of the reason we are in trouble. Do you support your neighbor before you support your own family? The answer should be no.

It's not wrong to help them but only when we have our own problems sorted out.

[Farbin Kaiber]

It's not wrong to help them but only when we have our own problems sorted out.

I endorse this statement.