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  • HarryPotter
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2010
    • 3642

    #541
    Originally posted by stegosaurus
    Ask yourself why I posted that and you'll realize that it has absolutely nothing to do with building my own personal knowledge base; I've seen one already, so I don't have to prove to myself that it's possible. Farbin asked me directly to, "Please, show me where it has been shown that those two [marijuana + EtOH] cause that", which is exactly what that case report does.

    Anyone who paid attention in their middle school health class knows opiates can cause cardiac arrest, but being more likely doesn't do anything to refute the researchers' conclusions.

    I guess I'm just picking at the "it's more dangerous than you think" issue but it seems like most people here are aware of that. Still, I think it's important to increase public awareness of all possible complications, especially as more people start to use.

    It's obvious where I stand on this issue by now and I expect plenty of criticism on that, I'm not sure where the "fucking retarded glorified taxi driver" bullshit is coming from; I guess you know more about myself than I do.
    Since when is pot an opiate?

    Oh I'm glad you left this out of your post too, from the article.

    "In our case, two facts need to be addressed. Firstly, the cannabis causality was assumed on the result of the positive urine drug screen; hence, a full toxicology screen was not pursued. "
    Last edited by HarryPotter; 03-25-2010, 08:21 AM.


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    • pureaudio
      E30 Enthusiast
      • May 2009
      • 1123

      #542
      Originally posted by s0urce
      In other news:


      Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot

      An initiative to legalize marijuana and allow it to be sold and taxed will appear on the November ballot, state election officials announced Wednesday, triggering what will probably be a much-watched campaign that once again puts California on the forefront of the nation's debate over whether to soften drug laws....The initiative would allow adults 21 or older to possess up to an ounce for personal use....The initiative would also allow adults to grow up to 25 square feet of marijuana per residence or parcel.

      http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,4756689.story
      In order for this to pass it is going to need to be more thought out. My issue with it is growing up to 25 square feet per residence or parcel. To me this just encourages dealing out of residential homes which create high traffic and less than desirable people who may be looking for something better than weed. It also sets up homes to be robbed which could include surrounding homes just because they are already there. There could something that allowed rural growing but I don't know, it might tread to closely to why not let it be done in homes within city limits.

      You can't distill hard alcohol at your home or without a license so why should people be allowed to grow weed at their home and without a license. For it to be properly taxed it needs to be set up as a business. No residential growing and selling, keep it in commercial areas and in strictly commercial buildings. I think they need to have a license to either grow or sell. People will still grow in their homes but not on a large scale, it should be easier to just do it legally if you want to sell.

      This is me as someone who doesn't smoke weed now and won't when its legal so just my 2 cents. I am guarantee the points I made will be used to campaign against it being legalized and people will listen. I would love for all the co-ops to finally have to pay taxes on their bullshit business's that they are operating but its not going to happen if their is no regulation. In that current form, why wouldn't you just grow it legally at your home and all your friend's and then sell it tax free just the same as you always did.
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      • Farbin Kaiber
        Lil' Puppet
        • Jul 2007
        • 29502

        #543
        Originally posted by stegosaurus
        It's obvious where I stand on this issue by now and I expect plenty of criticism on that, I'm not sure where the "fucking retarded glorified taxi driver" bullshit is coming from; I guess you know more about myself than I do.

        I never called you retarded.

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        • FredK
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 14752

          #544
          FARBINNN!!!

          sup

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          • Danny
            Moderator
            • Feb 2008
            • 14216

            #545
            sup

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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14752

              #546
              nm u

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              • Danny
                Moderator
                • Feb 2008
                • 14216

                #547
                y r u follwin me

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                • Farbin Kaiber
                  Lil' Puppet
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 29502

                  #548
                  Fred and Danny are feinding for a sesh.

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                  • Danny
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 14216

                    #549
                    FredK will probably put some crazy asian shit into the bowl. Not down for that shit.

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                    • Farbin Kaiber
                      Lil' Puppet
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 29502

                      #550
                      I've got some awesome tuberbuds up here, they grow underground. Really dirty and dank brah.

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                      • FredK
                        R3V OG
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 14752

                        #551
                        Sorry guise I'm straightedge.

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                        • Farbin Kaiber
                          Lil' Puppet
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 29502

                          #552
                          ^shitsweak.

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                          • Danny
                            Moderator
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 14216

                            #553
                            Originally posted by FredK
                            Sorry guise I'm straightedge.
                            :rofl:

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                            • stegosaurus
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 367

                              #554
                              Originally posted by HarryPotter
                              Since when is pot an opiate?

                              Oh I'm glad you left this out of your post too, from the article.

                              "In our case, two facts need to be addressed. Firstly, the cannabis causality was assumed on the result of the positive urine drug screen; hence, a full toxicology screen was not pursued. "
                              Nobody said marijuana is an opiate, I was referring to cocaine as it was mentioned in the article.

                              How do you expect to collect complete toxicology data from a patient that skips town? They note in the next sentence that, "the patient failed to attend his outpatient's follow up".

                              Don't overlook this though, "Bachs and Morland discussed six cases of acute cardiovascular death after cannabis use. The association was confirmed by a positive serum THC toxicology at post-mortem".

                              Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                              I never called you retarded.
                              No, the other guy did and I got lazy and merged the two insults. Sorry for putting words in your mouth.
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                              • UNIQETA
                                Advanced Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 125

                                #555
                                I believe it should just legalized for taxing purposes. thats all.

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