R3v's approval rating for Obama

[Wiglaf]

I guess by your definition then when he visits china he should start kissing boots.

[Schnitzer318is]

Yeah, guys. Imagine if Hitler was still around. You'd want to shake his hand and bow your head all low like. Maybe even throw a casual, innocent, fist to chest to air salute with him once or twice. So he knows you're totally cool and equals, yo.

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If he was still the dictator of Germany, WWII would have never happened. So, ya maybe we should then.

Yeah ok, well what nation in the world has been able to match the USA in both economic and military prowess and also holds FREEDOM of the people inside its boarders????

None, but that doesn't matter. And economic "prowess" is definitely not what I would call our current financial situation. If every debtor called in it's markers, our gov't would be bankrupt. Or they'd print more $, inflation would skyrocket, and the value of the dollar would be in the toilet.

See, everyone buys into this notion that the entire world has to be a FREE world. We try to instill our values on every nation in the world.

If a country's population wants to be a democratic one, they can overthrow their dictatorship just as we overthrew the English monarchy some 400 years ago. The reason we get involved is not to instill "freedom" for whatever country, it's to secure oil, trade, or some other benefit. We are not the fucking world police.

[rwh11385]

First, you support Hitler?!?!?

Second, our external debt might not be awesome and would rather not have it that great... but looking with % of GDP in mind we are not that bad.

US: 94% of a year's GDP
UK: 365% of their GDP
Germany: 185%
France: 227%
Spain: 150%
Luxemburg: 4973%
Ireland: 960%
Japan: 34% (remember, they have always been savers)
Switzerland: 441%
Belgium: 348%

You get the point... hopefully. (you seem a bit slow) We might have a lot of debt to other countries, but compared to some people on the block we aren't upsidedown on our mortgages like they are. We have a great strength - it is called the largest GDP in the world (~3X the 2nd and 3rd Japan & China,, or about 4X the 4th - Germany). Our one nation competes with 27 countries' total in the EU.

God you are ignorant. We had help in overthrowing Britain to gain our independence and did not do it on our own. Why do you think over nations wouldn't need our help and influence to achieve democracy?

[Schnitzer318is]

First, you support Hitler?!?!?

If you think that's what I meant, you need hooked on phonics.

God you are ignorant. We had help in overthrowing Britain to gain our independence and did not do it on our own. Why do you think over nations wouldn't need our help and influence to achieve democracy?

The French helped us for their own benefit... not for the good of "freedom."

As for your comparisons of % of debt vs. GDP. You are comparing shitty to shittier. And I couldn't verify those numbers btw. I found a few other maps and their figures were grossly different. Some better some worse. Could be that I couldn't find a current one with a debt of $12 trillion. And GDP is not a measure of the governments ability to pay anyway, just the size of our economy.

[CorvallisBMW]

For arguments like this, GDP per capita would be a more useful/insightful number than GDP total. How much you produce depends a lot on the size of your country (read: population)

Just sayin'.

[rwh11385]

For arguments like this, GDP per capita would be a more useful/insightful number than GDP total. How much you produce depends a lot on the size of your country (read: population)

Just sayin'.

Why divide external debt per gdp by another measure of population? Putting it into terms of how much debt we have and how much of a year's "income" that is... adding another dimension is not valued much IMO. Would it be better to have fewer people to spread it between and our production?

We have more people than almost all other countries (2 obvious have more) but our per capita gdp is still strong regardless.

[ck_taft325is]

If he was still the dictator of Germany, WWII would have never happened. So, ya maybe we should then.

Wow, just wow. So, if he was a dictator, and killed millions of people, we should definately show our respect to him? That's some fucked up sense of right and wrong you got there.

[LBJefferies]

A year ago when BHO went to too meet Medive (sp) Russian prez and start all this nuke reduction shit. Well they had a joint press conference, a day latter ol Vlad comes on the news and cock slaps both of them and says fuck you thats not what we are going to do at all. Would Kennedy, Reagan, either Bush, or even Clinton put up with that????? Fuck no

That's interesting considering Obama just signed a huge nuclear deal with Russia. Do you still think he failed?

[Schnitzer318is]

Wow, just wow. So, if he was a dictator, and killed millions of people, we should definately show our respect to him? That's some fucked up sense of right and wrong you got there.

Do you read? The quote you posted SHOULD explain to you why your statement is flawed... You have a hard time removing the atrocities Hitler committed in this hypothetical situation. See, I was saying that IF Hitler were still the dictator of Germany... it would mean that WWII (including the atrocities) had NEVER HAPPENED.

Why is that confusing?

[KenC]

Public opinion polls are so worthless. The general populace is so clueless on national and international affairs... it makes it difficult for me to give two shits what they think about convoluted public policy measures.

Individuals should be required to pass a short "current affairs" quiz before they're allowed to give their opinion in a political poll.

[rwh11385]

Public opinion polls are so worthless. The general populace is so clueless on national and international affairs... it makes it difficult for me to give two shits what they think about convoluted public policy measures.

Individuals should be required to pass a short "current affairs" quiz before they're allowed to give their opinion in a political poll.

Why not include the same to vote?

Be silly to require the polls to sample opinion to make sure they are informed and then have a bunch of gullible or ignorant people factor in to elect someone bad for the country but makes lots of promises for a better world.

[Atreus]

why is there no "hang that 1/8th Niigger" option?

wtf is that about?

[KenC]

Why not include the same to vote?

Be silly to require the polls to sample opinion to make sure they are informed and then have a bunch of gullible or ignorant people factor in to elect someone bad for the country but makes lots of promises for a better world.

Can we? Haha

Until the public can prove that they know anything beyond the names of the American Idol finalists, I find it hard to attach any value to public opinion polls.

That video of the enthusiastic Obama supporters that expressed vocal support for all of McCain's positions when questioned was hilarious and sad at the same time.

Has anybody seen Idiocracy?

[Wiglaf]

Can we? Haha
Until the public can prove that they know anything beyond the names of the American Idol finalists, I find it hard to attach any value to public opinion polls.

This is why the electoral vote will never fuck off. We still need it.
Despite the literacy rate being not being an issue anymore, people as politically clueless (and manipulated) as ever.

[ck_taft325is]

Do you read? The quote you posted SHOULD explain to you why your statement is flawed... You have a hard time removing the atrocities Hitler committed in this hypothetical situation. See, I was saying that IF Hitler were still the dictator of Germany... it would mean that WWII (including the atrocities) had NEVER HAPPENED.

Why is that confusing?

That's not even clearly related in anything you said. In the Event WWII never happend it would mean Hitler never existed. Sorry, but you seem to have ignored the entire point of my original post which is exactly what you've accused two other people of doing in response to your ridiculously misinformed/understood post.