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    Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal

    Something to consider even if you don't live in California

    Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
    productive for the State of California ...

    You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2
    parents, 2 children and live in California. "Joe Legal" works in
    construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with
    payroll taxes deducted...."Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has
    "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

    Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per
    year.

    Now take 30% away for state federal tax, Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

    Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per
    year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes... Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

    Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00
    per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

    Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and
    local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

    Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare.
    Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe
    Legal now has $7,231.00

    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and
    Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

    Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month. $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal
    is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00

    Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal
    pays rent. $500.00 per month. $6,000.00 per year Jose Illegal still has
    $31,200.00

    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
    work.

    Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

    Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe
    Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a
    government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school
    ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services,
    but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

    Don't vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens...Its PAST
    time to take a stand for America and Americans!
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    An employer has to pay Joe Legal 52,000 annually, and only 31,200 to Jose. Since employers (like Walmart, which employs a lot of illegals) typically only care about the bottom line, something must be done to make illegals much less financially attractive to hire.
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      #3
      they took my jerb!!!

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        #4
        I will leave this right here
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          #5
          shoot to kill... that should discourage some to cross.

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            #6
            How does Wal-Mart get away with hiring undocumented workers.

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              #7
              Whattt....no liberals yet to chime in about discrimination or amnesty? Maybe my day is getting better

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                #8
                illegal jose is likely more efficient and works longer hours with much less pay than 15/hr, which is why he is hired over Joe.

                You are also forgetting about benefits for Joe and Overtime pay Holiday Vacation Retirement Raises Workers Compensation etc. etc.

                I think you should find a more realistic scenario rather than just making something up.
                Consider doing some real research and presenting those results.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by reelop19 View Post
                  Whattt....no liberals yet to chime in about discrimination or amnesty? Maybe my day is getting better
                  Maybe most people have to work till 5.

                  explain to me how someone with no documentation is getting welfare, housing assistance, and food stamps. Either this story is crap, or the immigration law itself is the least of our concerns. Probably both but for now I'll just say that this story wouldn't happen in OH.
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                    #10
                    Joe legal would have to be an old man to be paying $1000 a month for limited coverage medical, and dental is generally a premium extra. That's 10x times more then I pay for low deductible medical insurance and I run my own business and pay for it all through a private plan.

                    Since you posted it, could you show how they are eligible for all these federal programs if they have zero paper work and no social security. If they provide false information that's one thing. Joe legal could provide false information just as easily.

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                      #11
                      Thats insurance for 4 people, not just one and that is about right.
                      Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

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                        #12
                        Why does Jose Illegal have everything covered by the government without any paperwork or citizenship?

                        No dice.

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                          #13
                          Haha, epic fail.
                          paint sucks

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Raxe View Post
                            Why does Jose Illegal have everything covered by the government without any paperwork or citizenship?

                            No dice.
                            Because it helps legitimize his sensationalized claim.

                            Just to be certain, this post is directed at employers of undocumented/illegal workers, right?
                            Originally posted by Gruelius
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Raxe View Post
                              Why does Jose Illegal have everything covered by the government without any paperwork or citizenship?

                              No dice.

                              Because the programs designed to give aid don't have the staff required to verify citizenship.

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