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  • mrsleeve
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Mar 2005
    • 16385

    #31
    Originally posted by mar1t1me
    I hate to play the Devil's Advocate, but if BP and the other involved parties hadn't apparently gotten sloppy and careless, many thousands of people who depend on the Gulf for their livelihood, but who aren't in the oil business would still be doing OK. It is because the shit hit the fan that the moratorium occurred. Ain't like it was all beer and skittles when the Big O shut 'em down.....

    I understand there's a mother lode of oil deep beneath the Gulf, but can we really afford another goat fuck like that?
    Hey UHHH I have explained this to you and every other person on here when it was going on the 1st time. Unfortunate string of events and questionable, method chosen for casing design on a wild cat, pressure to hurry the fuck up to save a rig day or 2, are all contributing factors . This is what can happen when you let the bean counters run the show and not the engineers and pushers.

    The fact that even though the vast majority of both semi-submersible and Jack Up rigs have been inspected and cleared not once but twice by the FEDS as safe to go back to work and they are still not turning screw on any new wells is telling of the 0's agenda. The defacto moratorium by not issuing permits for new wells in formations of known geological conditions is even more telling of the real agenda.

    Never waste a crisis - Rahm Emanuel (remember that)
    Originally posted by Fusion
    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


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    • mar1t1me
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      • Sep 2009
      • 863

      #32
      Originally posted by mrsleeve
      Hey UHHH I have explained this to you and every other person on here when it was going on the 1st time.
      Can't read everything..... ;)

      And I do understand that crises like this will always be politicized for better or worse.

      But.....the Macondo blow out demonstrated the industry's apparent lack of ability to deal with the reality of problems at the depths where most new drilling is likely to occur. BP invested billions in the technology of sophisticated deep water drilling techniques, but seemed utterly flummoxed when something went wrong. They were unprepared.

      The US controls what, 3% of the world's oil? Yet uses about 1/4 of it? We can't drill our way to energy independence. Ever.

      That doesn't mean I don't feel for all those guys that had what appeared to be steady jobs, but this economy has fucked about everyone except politicians and bankers.

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      • mrsleeve
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Mar 2005
        • 16385

        #33
        Originally posted by mar1t1me
        Can't read everything..... ;)

        And I do understand that crises like this will always be politicized for better or worse.

        But.....the Macondo blow out demonstrated the industry's apparent lack of ability to deal with the reality of problems at the depths where most new drilling is likely to occur. BP invested billions in the technology of sophisticated deep water drilling techniques, but seemed utterly flummoxed when something went wrong. They were unprepared.
        well yes and no, shit happens and even when its not supposed to, and like I said all along if BP was cutting corners and ignoring its own best practices to save a rig day or 2 then nail them to the wall. Yes there was not any proven tech in place to fix it. never had this problems since the triple Blind ram BOPs were developed and put into use.

        So since there was not precedent for that situation they had to come up with something on the fly, now thanks to that situation (as bad as it may have been) we have a proven method and lots of good ideas and things to build from to shut it down faster next time.

        The feds were not prepaired either and abiding by the laws they laid out for them selves if such a thing ever happens in the US as laid out in the Oil Pollution Act.

        Originally posted by mar1t1me
        The US controls what, 3% of the world's oil? Yet uses about 1/4 of it? We can't drill our way to energy independence. Ever.
        Not sure on the 3% figure think its closer to 15% but that of Current PRODUCTION, we HAVE vast reserves here in the US our territorial waters in the gulf and AK, We have as much if not more than the middle east ever had. yes we use 23% of the current production of the oil (IIRC)

        Originally posted by mar1t1me
        That doesn't mean I don't feel for all those guys that had what appeared to be steady jobs, but this economy has fucked about everyone except politicians and bankers.
        Agreed but now that the flaming hoops have been been jumped though not once but twice I think they can go back to work dont you ???
        Originally posted by Fusion
        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
        William Pitt-

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