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    Obamacare killing White Castle

    Ohio hamburger chain says insurance reform will bite into profits

    <h5>Published: Sunday, July 04, 2010, 6:00 AM

    WASHINGTON, D.C. - The White Castle hamburger chain fears that a health insurance reform law adopted earlier this year will put its profits on a downward slide.


    The Columbus-based family owned restaurant chain - known for serving small square hamburgers called "sliders" – says a single provision in the bill will eat up roughly 55 percent of its yearly net income after 2014.


    Starting that year, the bill levies a $3,000-per-employee penalty on companies whose workers pay more than 9.5 percent of household income in premiums for company-provided insurance.


    White Castle, which currently provides insurance to all of its full-time workers and picks up 70 to 89 percent of their premium costs, believes it will likely end up paying those penalties. The financial hit will make it hard for the company to maintain its 421 restaurants, let alone create new jobs, says company spokesman Jamie Richardson. White Castle employs more than 10,000 people nationwide, and more than 1,200 in Ohio.


    Though advocates of the health insurance bill say its reforms will boost employment, House RepublicanLeader John Boehner of Ohio, a vocal foe of the changes, says White Castle's analysis shows how the law's "job-crushing" impact will be most severe in lower-income areas, where jobs like those at White Castle are most needed.


    "The irony is that in the name of expanding health care coverage, the administration is making it harder than ever for unskilled workers to get started in the workforce," Boehner said in a missive on White Castle's plight.


    Boehner's predictions don't mesh with White House Council of Economic Advisors estimates that health care reform will create 320,000 jobs in upcoming years. The White House has said employees at larger companies aren't likely to notice any difference in their insurance coverage, and that changes in the bill will particularly help small businesses by driving down their premium costs and making it easier for them to insure workers.


    "While opponents of reform have raised concerns that some of the provisions in the President's proposal will harm small businesses and their employees, the facts, figures, and discussion below show that the proposal will mean tax cuts, no new requirements, and numerous other benefits," said a blog posting from the group's chair, Christina Romer, and its senior economist, Mark Duggan.


    That's not how the National Council of Chain Restaurants sees it. Restaurant group vice president Scott Vinson says the entire restaurant industry will have trouble dealing with costs the bill imposes in 2014, including a $2,000-per-worker penalty that companies with more than 50 employees must pay if their workers end up purchasing federally subsidized insurance rather than getting insurance from their employers.


    "There is the expense of actually providing the insurance, then the expense of not providing insurance," says Vinson. "It will be expensive either way."


    George Ebinger of New Jersey, who owns severalInternational House of Pancakes restaurants, says the penalties for not insuring his 140 workers will cost roughly half as much as insuring them. He figures he will have to raise prices and possibly lay off workers to come up with the $220,000 he anticipates the penalties will cost.


    "We are still figuring out how to deal with this," says Ebinger. "Ultimately, either businesses will close or consumers will pay more."


    Problems will be felt throughout the retail industry, which employs many entry-level workers, says National Retail Federation vice president Neil Trautwein. He says employers will face tough choices when the mandates become effective in 2014.


    "We do worry about this discouraging employment, particularly when employment hasn't taken off," says Trautwein.


    But White House Office of Health Reform Director Nancy-Ann DeParle says 97 percent of the nation's companies won't pay any penalties under the new law.


    "The principle underlying this bill is: if you don't offer coverage and you have workers who the taxpayers are supporting to get their coverage, than you must make a relatively small contribution," says DeParle. "I understand that they don't like it and believe it will cut into their profits, but it is a relatively small contribution to defray costs to taxpayers."


    Steven Kreisberg of the 1.4 million-member American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union, questions White Castle's calculations. His union represents food service workers in Ohio public schools and other institutions.


    He figures many of the White Castle workers who would end up paying a significant amount of their income for premiums would opt to buy less expensive coverage from a federal exchange.


    "Let's not forget that since the worker is declining their coverage, they don't have to pay insurance for that worker," says Kreisberg, the union's health care policy director. "So they would be saving money at the same time as they are paying the penalty."


    White Castle recognizes it won't continue paying health insurance bills for workers who buy insurance on the federal exchange, but Richardson says the company predicts its insurance costs would still rise because its healthiest young employees, who make the least money, would be most likely to transfer to the federal program. An exodus of healthy workers from the company's insurance plan would drive up costs for those who remain, the company forecasts.


    White Castle, which began offering health insurance to workers in 1924, is also examining whether it would make financial sense for the company to eliminate health insurance coverage altogether and have all its employees buy insurance on the federal exchange, says Richardson.


    "It would be incongruent with how we run our business, but we have to think that through," says Richardson. "No matter what, we will do what's best for our team members."

    The White Castle hamburger chain fears that a health insurance reform law adopted earlier this year will put its profits on a downward slide.
    Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

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    #2
    BHO has no clue what the fuck he is doing. this is awful.

    on a sidenote it has been 4 months since i ate fastfood. its great.

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      #3
      Many people just can't get their rotten brain around the fact that the Government covers part of the bill, the employer some and the rest the employee has to cover.

      It's blaringly obvious this isn't going to be the next best thing since sliced bread.
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        #4
        so let me get this straight: white castle is paying 89% of the cost for premiums, and that remaining 11% still accounts for more than 9.5% of the employee's pay? That right there is already fucked to begin with.
        The bill was written with the intent that any employer providing that much assistance with benefits would not have to pay an additional fee.
        Last edited by Wiglaf; 07-05-2010, 02:46 PM.
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        Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
        If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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          #5
          oh no, not white castle!
          cars beep boop

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            #6
            Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
            so let me get this straight: white castle is paying 89% of the cost for premiums, and that remaining 11% still accounts for more than 9.5% of the employee's pay? That right there is already fucked to begin with.
            The bill was written with the intent that any employer providing that much assistance with benefits would not have to pay an additional fee.
            and now its starting to sink in, just what this bill is designed to do isnt it????????

            Dont come crying to us, we all tried to warn you ;)
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
            William Pitt-

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              #7
              Originally posted by kronus View Post
              oh no, not white castle!
              were actually thinking more like oh no not 11000 jobs.

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                #8
                Wait just a damn minute!! If fast food chains start shutting down where do all the welfare babies and their well-fed welfare mothers all eat? I don't like where this is headed at all! I'm calling Obama right now .................................................. ..
                .................................................. .................................................. .........
                ok he didn't answer because he was at the golf course so I'll try him later.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by reelop19 View Post
                  Wait just a damn minute!! If fast food chains start shutting down where do all the welfare babies and their well-fed welfare mothers all eat? I don't like where this is headed at all! I'm calling Obama right now .................................................. ..
                  .................................................. .................................................. .........
                  ok he didn't answer because he was at the golf course so I'll try him later.
                  I hate to say this but our last president set the present president on presidential vacay time.

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                    #10
                    ^^^^ Can somebody please tell me what this has to do with 2010 and Obama fucking up everything he does? Now back to what I want to talk about.........Does this mean No sequel to Harold and Kumar got to White Castle?

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                      #11
                      i thought obama had bush beat in terms of actual golf time, already. like bush's total administration time spent golfing has already been beaten by obama, i think...
                      1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                      1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                      1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                      1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                      1994 540i - Granitsilber

                      Originally posted by scabzzzz
                      I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Atreus View Post
                        i thought obama had bush beat in terms of actual golf time, already. like bush's total administration time spent golfing has already been beaten by obama, i think...
                        this

                        What dozy is talking about was all the time Bush spent in TX at his ranch, I would like to point out the Bush while there was still WORKING Just not in Washington.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                          #13
                          If this was In n Out instead of WC, I would be exponentially more pissed off.

                          SC*AR

                          Originally posted by JamesE30
                          And with a car looking like yours I imagine the balance shall tip in the favor of insult, like a big fat fucking retarded fucking black girl on a see-saw, opposite... a dwarf.

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                            #14
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            Ummmm it will hurt in & out, wendy's, Wac Arnold's, Taco Bell, the little greasy spoon diner, its going to hurt EVERY ONE.
                            Originally posted by Fusion
                            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                            William Pitt-

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                              Ummmm it will hurt in & out, wendy's, Wac Arnold's, Taco Bell, the little greasy spoon diner, its going to hurt EVERY ONE.
                              dangit.

                              I <3 In n Out and Taco Bell. Grilled Stuft Burrito ftw

                              SC*AR

                              Originally posted by JamesE30
                              And with a car looking like yours I imagine the balance shall tip in the favor of insult, like a big fat fucking retarded fucking black girl on a see-saw, opposite... a dwarf.

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