is this the way Colorado handles business?

[z31maniac]

sleeve, we have the "Make my day" law in OK as well.

I actually worked on a insurance claim for the damage to a homeowners property that shot and killed someone after the kicked in the front door.

I don't think the police even took him in for questioning. "Guy kicked in your door and you shot him? Certainly looks that way. Have a good evening sir."

[dvs909]

did anyone else E-mail the mayors office?

[mrsleeve]

sleeve, we have the "Make my day" law in OK as well.

I actually worked on a insurance claim for the damage to a homeowners property that shot and killed someone after the kicked in the front door.

I don't think the police even took him in for questioning. "Guy kicked in your door and you shot him? Certainly looks that way. Have a good evening sir."

yes a good strong castle law is a corner stone to gun rights IMO. And those that extend No duty to retreat, aka stand your ground, aka make my day laws to any where a person has the right to be are on the top of my list for places I will hang my hat. I turned down a very good, full time, year round, in my own bed every night, job last summer on the sole reason it was in Illinois and in the Chicago land area.

[joshh]

i am not siding with the DA's office however they have a possible case (even as wrong as as it may be). Is your $1500 trailer really worth a life? Yes they are illegal scumbags, but life? cmon....

We do not know the details of this story either. If the thieves did infact attempt to hit him, then he has a chance in court. If not, he is screwed in trial; if it even gets that far. Chances are he'll plea out something much less and and 24months of probation. The DA's office wouldnt attempt to prosecute if they did not have credible evidence.

Yes and some live are worth less than the cost of a bullet.

[Ryan...]

yes and some lives are worth less than the cost of a bullet.

+100000

[ELONZOOOO]

Sounds like you are one of the problems in Colorado.

dont point fingers, i just want the whole story. i have seen how the media falsely portrays actual events. Im not siding with DA's office as stated in my previous post. I think they are going out on a whim trying to prosecute this guy given the evidence presented to the public, but they wouldnt try it if they didnt have sufficient evidence.

[ELONZOOOO]

Well he shot him in the face that implies the FRONT so its plausible to say the least. The article has been written with the undertones of anti gun author, but this is my opinion.

you dont have sides on your face?

[mrsleeve]

you dont have sides on your face?

right, thats why I said "plausible" and with the way the article is written much is left out and key wording points to anti-gun author.

[westyat7000]

CO has a "make my day" law also. It usually works fairly well.

[Bimmerman325i]

What you guys are missing is the law in Colorado. You're allowed to defend your home from an intruder with deadly force. Preventing a robbery NOT inside your house when your life is NOT threatened with deadly force is illegal.

You can't shoot someone in CO for stealing something, unless they try to kill you within your own home in the process.

If the thieves tried to hit him while taking the trailer away, so long as he shot them while they were on his property he has a chance in court. Otherwise he discharged a weapon in a populated area without his life being in danger and he is fucked legally.

It's bullshit the thieves aren't charged with anything yet, but there are many reasons the homeowner is in deep shit.

Yes I own guns, am a republican, so don't try to spin this into something it's not. That's the law in CO.

[mrsleeve]

What you guys are missing is the law in Colorado. You're allowed to defend your home from an intruder with deadly force. Preventing a robbery NOT inside your house when your life is NOT threatened with deadly force is illegal.

You can't shoot someone in CO for stealing something, unless they try to kill you within your own home in the process.

If the thieves tried to hit him while taking the trailer away, so long as he shot them while they were on his property he has a chance in court. Otherwise he discharged a weapon in a populated area without his life being in danger and he is fucked legally.

It's bullshit the thieves aren't charged with anything yet, but there are many reasons the homeowner is in deep shit.

Yes I own guns, am a republican, so don't try to spin this into something it's not. That's the law in CO.

YES compleatly right and totally agree with all this. If you point a truck at ME ANYWHERE I AM WITH IN MY RIGHTS TO DEFEND MY SELF WITH DEADLY FORCE no matter where they fuck I am. That truck is a direct threat to my life and general well being, so I can use deadly force to try and stop them from hurting me.

[ELONZOOOO]

What you guys are missing is the law in Colorado. You're allowed to defend your home from an intruder with deadly force. Preventing a robbery NOT inside your house when your life is NOT threatened with deadly force is illegal.

You can't shoot someone in CO for stealing something, unless they try to kill you within your own home in the process.

If the thieves tried to hit him while taking the trailer away, so long as he shot them while they were on his property he has a chance in court. Otherwise he discharged a weapon in a populated area without his life being in danger and he is fucked legally.

It's bullshit the thieves aren't charged with anything yet, but there are many reasons the homeowner is in deep shit.

Yes I own guns, am a republican, so don't try to spin this into something it's not. That's the law in CO.

this/

besides the republican part :mrgreen:

[Bimmerman325i]

YES compleatly right and totally agree with all this. If you point a truck at ME ANYWHERE I AM WITH IN MY RIGHTS TO DEFEND MY SELF WITH DEADLY FORCE no matter where they fuck I am. That truck is a direct threat to my life and general well being, so I can use deadly force to try and stop them from hurting me.

I agree with you in principle but unfortunately the law in Colorado does not to my knowledge. If they try to run you over on your property with malicious intent (i.e. not a buddy who can't see you running into you on accident), you can defend yourself while you and they are on your property-- there's no need to retreat rule in CO. Whether the make my day law applies OUTSIDE the house is something I'll look in to.

Basically, while shooting them is great and all, you court murder charges if they didn't back up into your house trying to kill you. That's the gist of the law afaik.

sincerely,
not a lawyer but have researched this a bit.

[Bimmerman325i]

this/

besides the republican part :mrgreen:

haha. more independent/libertarian than hardcore republican, aspects of both main parties piss me off.

[mrsleeve]

I agree with you in principle but unfortunately the law in Colorado does not to my knowledge. If they try to run you over on your property with malicious intent (i.e. not a buddy who can't see you running into you on accident), you can defend yourself while you and they are on your property-- there's no need to retreat rule in CO. Whether the make my day law applies OUTSIDE the house is something I'll look in to.

Basically, while shooting them is great and all, you court murder charges if they didn't back up into your house trying to kill you. That's the gist of the law afaik.

sincerely,
not a lawyer but have researched this a bit.

well if you are in the mall parking lot and some one is pointing a truck at you with malicious intent (IE you move left it corrects to continue to you and you move right and the same) that truck is now considered a deadly weapon. No different than some one threatening you with a gun or knife or ball bat. You then can use deadly force to stop the threat, because that vehicle is being used as a weapon that can cause you great bodily harm or death.