^ That's what I'm talking about, the slow, leveraged buyout of religious freedom.
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Really I would just like to see them paying property taxes on all the shit they own. But still leave them alone with the income taxes.The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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if what we're worried about is balancing the budget, how about we just take them off the dole, rather than trying to decide how we get our own money back out of them.past:
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Since I am not a religious person anymore, part of me wants to say fuck the churches. However, the church that I went to as a kid was very community oriented and was filled with good people. These people donated A LOT of money to good causes and sent me to Central America. The problem I think is when churches become businesses like those televangelist churches and the church of Scientology. Where/how do we draw the line between the two?Comment
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You cantThe American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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^^^ Part of religious freedom is accepting the wheat AND the chaff, and hoping people are smart enough to tell which is which.
They apparently aren't.Comment
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Well I don't know about that. We could say that in order to be tax exempt, churches must pay church employees only modest sums of money relative to the cost of living of where the church is located, and they must donate all money, after payroll and operating costs, to charity. I have a feeling they are already required to do this stuff though, correct? How exactly do those televangelists make so much money?Comment
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There isn't a line, you have to take both, like allowing that Black Panther to scream about killing crackers and their babies, or letting you speak your mind on a forum.
No, they are not required to do any of that.
Most of the big televangelists pay themselves a $1/yr. salary, plus all expenses. Makes them look like saints. Saints with 2.46mil/yr in expenses. And two Bentleys.
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What is the "Church" so many of you are ready to tax? Which one? All of them? Then, what would define "Church"? There's a lot of base assumptions a few of you are operating out of. I'm neither here nor there, just trying to see exactly where everyone stands.
I do see that the Churches locally and in Seattle (Mars Hill, Acts 29, etc, etc...) have and are doing tons of good out reach, charity and the like.Need a part? PM me.
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I'm pretty mixed on this one. I think in order to even get church status they have to prove...and keep proving they give to their LOCAL people. Programs of their own or even charity of any sort to the people in their city.
I have plenty of experience with Scientology and what it means to be a "Church".
Problem is I don't trust Government to control this one bit.Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison
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Historically, religious organizations were exempt from paying taxes because they took care of education and hospitals. They don't do that anymore. So it's time to start paying. And don't worry, the Catholic church (among others) is extremely rich.Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.
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The amount of money they possess is not the point you ignorant foreigner. Maybe we need a Canadian Politics & Religion subforum for you to mettle in.Comment
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Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.
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No, you don't seem to understand, to prevent the Government from plying the separate religious groups, the separation of the two entities, was purposeful, not to supply education and medical care, but to prevent people from voting in specific people under duress of their eternal spiritual well being.
I understand you guys up there just go out from under the Queen just a few decades ago, whereas we got out from under that a few centuries ago. I wouldn't expect you to understand.Comment
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