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Why aren't you guys tripping out over this?
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good thing she stepped down, i really hope people don't get to defending her now that CNN has it on their page and its catching more attention.
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Originally posted by Massive Lee View PostWhat is it that should be deducted by the clip? That she initially had a prejudice against a white farmer, with the clear intention to make his life difficult? Or that she then realized it was not white vs black, but rich vs poor? The lady complains the dude was patronizing here. Unless she can express how he made himself feel superior, then I can only deduct she suffers from paranoia.
So, what should we all be tripping on? ;-)
It's not rich vs. poor. It's following the guidelines, procedures and policies she promised to uphold when she accepted the job.
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You can see who the self assumed, underprivileged minorities are in this thread. Stop fucking bring it up, stop holding it over people who are at least two generations disassociated from it.
It's people trying to throw slavery in the faces of 20 something white males are the ones propagating the issue. Drop it. Stop using it to fire blanks over the bow of society, and try something else.
And, reelizmpro, if you want to see an example of fuct up government trying to right the wrongs of the past, look at the Wolf situation in the Northwest.
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Originally posted by reelizmpro View PostRight but that's just not reality. It's virtually impossible for someone to be 100% impartial. Why do you think affirmative action ever existed in the first place? That's pretty blatant racism right there yet the powers that be agreed it was necessary in an attempt to right the wrongs of the past. I don't think she or anyone should get a pass but fact of the matter is...she will. She should be removed from her position but probably won't. Of course you feel the way you do because you don't see how you have benefited from racism. Africans were enslaved, families torn apart, people bought and sold like cattle and finally after they were emancipated, subjected to racism and lynched just because of their color of skin. Think about that a second. Merely getting turned down for a loan or job opportunity is nothing compared to what they went through. Many people (perhaps not you) sympathize with this. Make no mistake, this country was founded on racism. I think it's comical, white people would be outraged just because they are getting a little taste of it now. It's not right, but neither was the enslavement of Africans, enslavement of Chinese to build railroads or the theft of Native American land, etc, etc, etc. I personally don't think anyone will truly "get past this" until we are all mixed into one ethnicity. Even then, we'll probably focus more on skinny vs fat, man vs woman, etc. It's just in our nature.
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Originally posted by reelizmpro View PostRight but that's just not reality. It's virtually impossible for someone to be 100% impartial. Why do you think affirmative action ever existed in the first place? That's pretty blatant racism right there yet the powers that be agreed it was necessary in an attempt to right the wrongs of the past. I don't think she or anyone should get a pass but fact of the matter is...she will. She should be removed from her position but probably won't. Of course you feel the way you do because you don't see how you have benefited from racism. Africans were enslaved, families torn apart, people bought and sold like cattle and finally after they were emancipated, subjected to racism and lynched just because of their color of skin. Think about that a second. Merely getting turned down for a loan or job opportunity is nothing compared to what they went through. Many people (perhaps not you) sympathize with this. Make no mistake, this country was founded on racism. I think it's comical, white people would be outraged just because they are getting a little taste of it now. It's not right, but neither was the enslavement of Africans, enslavement of Chinese to build railroads or the theft of Native American land, etc, etc, etc. I personally don't think anyone will truly "get past this" until we are all mixed into one ethnicity. Even then, we'll probably focus more on skinny vs fat, man vs woman, etc. It's just in our nature.
I think you're further missing the point that majority of the people in this country didn't do any of those things you've mentioned. there wasn't, isn't and never will be a justification for racism. Your last post is a 3 way teeter totter between being against racism, accepting it as nature, and being slightly racist.
It will always be our job to be the better people than our ancestors and that is why racial standards, on average, are on the incline. edit: probably more viable if talking about western and modern civilization.
Before you say anything about my skin color I will let you know that half my family was eradicated in WWII because they were thought to be less than vermin. I can assure you its not so much the case now.Last edited by Dozyproductions; 07-19-2010, 04:40 PM.
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Originally posted by mar1t1meAll we need to know is this: "I did not give him the full force of what I could do"....
That alone is grounds for firing.
Originally posted by reelizmpro View PostRight but that's just not reality. It's virtually impossible for someone to be 100% impartial. Why do you think affirmative action ever existed in the first place? That's pretty blatant racism right there yet the powers that be agreed it was necessary in an attempt to right the wrongs of the past. I don't think she or anyone should get a pass but fact of the matter is...she will. She should be removed from her position but probably won't. Of course you feel the way you do because you don't see how you have benefited from racism. Africans were enslaved, families torn apart, people bought and sold like cattle and finally after they were emancipated, subjected to racism and lynched just because of their color of skin. Think about that a second. Merely getting turned down for a loan or job opportunity is nothing compared to what they went through. Many people (perhaps not you) sympathize with this. Make no mistake, this country was founded on racism. I think it's comical, white people would be outraged just because they are getting a little taste of it now. It's not right, but neither was the enslavement of Africans, enslavement of Chinese to build railroads or the theft of Native American land, etc, etc, etc. I personally don't think anyone will truly "get past this" until we are all mixed into one ethnicity. Even then, we'll probably focus more on skinny vs fat, man vs woman, etc. It's just in our nature.
Next You are aware that black people had as many right and freedoms in the US since before the birth of the nation and had key roles in its founding right????
That short enough guys ?????
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All we need to know is this: "I did not give him the full force of what I could do"....
That alone is grounds for firing.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not getting the point, we are all supposed to be past this shit. Especialy those in a govt position and are supposed to be impartial. If this had been a white lady talking about not helping a black or latino family to best of their ability when that is the job they are being paid to do. YOU WOULD BE ALL UP IN ARMS and Pissed off bitching and moaning and screaming racist at the top of you lugs and demanding repudiation.
You your self are furthering the point that the only people in the world that can be racist are white people. This lady should not get a pass "because she prolly has seen lots of racism". She should be removed from her position for this crap.
Yes this is disgusting, nothing more than racial politics that have been going on for a long time now.
Just look to Oakland, or Detroit to see how it ends. Detroit is the poster child and a microcosm for the policies that are not being played out on the national level. If this shit continues the whole country will end up like being just like Detroit.
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