Gallup poll: Obama @ 41% job approval

[mrsleeve]

why would any one vote for somebody who has never even been in charge of even a McDonald's and with no military background, in a war on two fronts,why,why,why.......?

Oh Hi dont come in here with common sense and what not. It will not stand up to the reasoning of the others.

I know you from some where dont I ???

[briansjacobs]

Says the guy that thinks it's a good idea to put a mosque near ground zero built but a guy that also wants Sheria law in America.

I never said it was a good idea, I said I dont see what the big deal is. I understand why they putting there, real estate is dirt cheap there and the area is empty. They are buying the building for $4M. That is nothing! Building has been for sale for 6 years!

[briansjacobs]

You keep calling me a propagandist. That's hilarious since this is the first time. Can you post the other times you've called me that? That's what I'd love to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

There you are, now make your excuses.

that is your proof that he says he is a muslim. A retort about people saying he is a Muslim. I remember watching this interview, He was actually defending McCain and saying when McCain supports were calling Obama a Muslim McCain never went there. Later McCain went on to say that Obama is not a Muslim.

[briansjacobs]

But that goes against everything that people thought about this guy. He came in with UNREAL numbers. To have it fall to "on par" or "slightly below average" from there is a much, much larger fall from grace that average.

I agree fuck politicians in general - completely. I would hate to see Sarah Palin run an ice cream stand. BUT, all of this BS talk of what could have been is worthless.

Good for you for selling your company in 2005 - you're probably to the good for that. However, you also got out ~2 years before the end of a raging bull market. How did the new owners shit the bed in 2006? There was a minor correction but it raged until 2/3's through 2007.

Finally, I'm curious what you base your current forecast on. Forecasting 10 years out is pretty unrealistic as you can't really know what's going to happen next week much less 10 years out. There are a lot of things that could save the housing market before then - and I don't buy into the whole "commercial real estate being the next shoe to drop" BS either.

I think things could get much, much better for investors if the conservatives win in November. Most of the "investing class" - say slightly upper middle class and up - tend to be more conservative. They are hoarding cash. If they feel like things are actually going to go the other way and the balance of power at least shifts into neutral, I think a lot of people will come back to the market.

The official peak where I am was Sept. 2005, I noticed it in my books October and made the decision by the end of the month to either close or sell by lease renewal in January. The market in 2006 was much different, guidelines were changing making it harder to get loans, people were afraid of the market crashing and there was literally half the amount of business in 2006. We went from a 3 month inventory of homes to a 15 month inventory almost overnight. And not to mention the inventory was saturated with overpriced homes that were shit. I made the decision for two reasons 1, I was burned out and 2 I knew I would have to double my advertising budget and my hours to make half the money. I said fuck it and sat by my pool for a year. And started my Driver Coaching business that has taken me around the country playing with Radicals,Ferraris, vipers.....and miatas

my predictions are as valid as many others that have been dead wrong or promoting an agenda, I base my forecast on past housing markets. I feel there will be small bubbles where there is a flury of business and there will some money to be made here and there, but not steady again for some time.

I dont think it matters who is in office, I think it is a natural cycle that needs to happen on its own. If I tell you something you may have an artificial sense of confidence, but if you see it for your self that is true confidence. That why is why I say it does not matter who is in office, people will come around on their own. Dont try to manipulate a market that does not exist, it will create itself.

[briansjacobs]

why would any one vote for somebody who has never even been in charge of even a McDonald's and with no military background, in a war on two fronts,why,why,why.......?

you mean like Reagan. As for voting for people with a military background would you want someone like McCain that consistently does not support our veterans by voting against the GI bill and trying to privatize the VA as well as restricting health care to non combat wounded Vets.

[briansjacobs]

You keep calling me a propagandist. That's hilarious since this is the first time. Can you post the other times you've called me that? That's what I'd love to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

There you are, now make your excuses.

Joshh, I was not calling you a nazi, however your hate speech against gays could be branded as such, I was merely calling you a propagandist as the materail you reference is unfounded and is sheer propaganda.

[BraveUlysses]

Oh Hi dont come in here with common sense and what not. It will not stand up to the reasoning of the others.

I know you from some where dont I ???

You don't think that control of the military was given to civilians for a reason? Stop creating prerequisites out of thin air.

[mrsleeve]

You don't think that control of the military was given to civilians for a reason? Stop creating prerequisites out of thin air.

UHHHHHH I was not really talking about the military in the context of that post. Yeah your right its to keep the military under the control of the people and from being used against them. Your not really telling me anything I dont already know. Nice try though A for effort


I know 8 year olds with more management experience than our CiC, and those 8 year olds have run a Fucking Lemonade stand for a day or 2.

Hes a Professional Intellectual, with no real world experience in anything, hence why hes got to run every decision past his buddy George Sorous and the crew at the Center for American Progress. Professional intellectuals dont do well as presidents, no real world experience or understanding on how shit works. 2 of the worst on record are cut form the same cloth Wilson and the Current empty suit, the similarities are staggering

[BraveUlysses]

UHHHHHH I was not really talking about the military in the context of that post. Yeah your right its to keep the military under the control of the people and from being used against them. Your not really telling me anything I dont already know. Nice try though A for effort

Well the person you quoted was talking about it, so perhaps I assumed too much about your ability to read and keep things in context?

I know 8 year olds with more management experience than our CiC, and those 8 year olds have run a Fucking Lemonade stand for a day or 2.

I'm no fan of Obama but I can't take anyone seriously who has to make hyperbole this strong to make their "point."

[reelop19]

Yeah sure the President controls the military.....not. Why do you think we sent more troops to Afganistan? Because people told him thats what we're going to do. This duschebag can't do anything right. Do you honestly believe the government would give him power over the military?

[uofom3]

The official peak where I am was Sept. 2005, I noticed it in my books October and made the decision by the end of the month to either close or sell by lease renewal in January. The market in 2006 was much different, guidelines were changing making it harder to get loans, people were afraid of the market crashing and there was literally half the amount of business in 2006. We went from a 3 month inventory of homes to a 15 month inventory almost overnight. And not to mention the inventory was saturated with overpriced homes that were shit. I made the decision for two reasons 1, I was burned out and 2 I knew I would have to double my advertising budget and my hours to make half the money. I said fuck it and sat by my pool for a year. And started my Driver Coaching business that has taken me around the country playing with Radicals,Ferraris, vipers.....and miatas

my predictions are as valid as many others that have been dead wrong or promoting an agenda, I base my forecast on past housing markets. I feel there will be small bubbles where there is a flury of business and there will some money to be made here and there, but not steady again for some time.

I dont think it matters who is in office, I think it is a natural cycle that needs to happen on its own. If I tell you something you may have an artificial sense of confidence, but if you see it for your self that is true confidence. That why is why I say it does not matter who is in office, people will come around on their own. Dont try to manipulate a market that does not exist, it will create itself.

I thought you meant a financial (stock) company.

RE financing is a whole different ball of wax - and you timed that well.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I am just saying that making forecasts that are 10 years out is harder to do. I would rather base a strategy on the next 12-18 months aswe can actually see, to an extent, what lies down that path as far as policy changes, etc. are concerned.

I agree with the cycles of economics but the problem is that we are not letting natural cycles take place. We are trying to stave off problems and only creating other equal, if not greater problems.

I think it's going to matter who is in office for the following reason:
- Policy - business/corporations are holding off becaues they aren't sure what other plans a "progressive" agenda has up its sleeve. Are they going to be friendly to private industry again or not? Probably not.

- Psychology - Free markets do not behave rationally at this point, it's all emotionally driven. When people feel like things are going to get worse or they don't agree they take their chips off the table. The guy making 20k a year really doesn't change the landscape of the stock/housing market dramatically as far as direct investment is concerned. They impact the economy because those jobs go first and they are not being employed by companies/investing class citizens. If people who have the money to plow into the markets (equity/housing) and feel like they are going to be in good shape to make money, they will do it. If they think that things are going to get worse and that policy will continue to work against them... they won't. So you see a hiring freeze like we've had, a flacid stock market since Jan 1, the Fed taking action based on a scaled back forecast and voila - people stop investing.

People need a reason to put their money to work, which will benefit EVERYONE (government included). Right now, the primary uncertainty is Government policy and growing debt (9.2% of GDP). Create a landscpae where people want to plow more money in and then you see real recovery.

[Kershaw]

lololol @ 25% approval of bush.

hahaha, what a douche.

[briansjacobs]

I would rather base a strategy on the next 12-18 months aswe can actually see,

I agree with the cycles of economics but the problem is that we are not letting natural cycles take place.

- business/corporations are holding off becaues they aren't sure what other plans a "progressive" agenda has up its sleeve.

- Psychology - Free markets do not behave rationally at this point, it's all emotionally driven. When people feel like things are going to get worse or they don't agree they take their chips off the table.

People need a reason to put their money to work, which will benefit EVERYONE (government included). Right now, the primary uncertainty is Government policy and growing debt (9.2% of GDP). Create a landscpae where people want to plow more money in and then you see real recovery.[/QUOTE]

well that one is easy, over the next year dont expect any REAL improvements, may be a bubbble or two, but expect more of the same.

I agree, unless the goverment comes up with a new road way system or other project there is little they can do to create jobs in this country. So many people are saying Obama can not create jobs because he is a shitty president and then complain about earmarks to pay for things that could create jobs. It is a double edge sword.

I dont think big corporations are taking chips off the table, big corporations do care who is in office, but it does not stop them from making money, it just changes the course of how they make money. Look at the credit card companies for example, all the changes made to protect the consumers the banks found loopholes in them before the laws went into effect.

I think you give the "working man" a little too much credit.

[joshh]

And you said keep calling me that...that makes exactly 2 times. LMFAO...ok Brian....

[joshh]

How did I know you would post up an out-of-context interview gaffe as "definitive proof"?

Here's the two minutes leading up to your 15 seconds.

Of course I don't expect you to be able to see that for what it is! Neither would any of the paid pundits who base entire political arguments on things like that.

If you really want to play that game, here is Dick Cheney, in his own words stating that "we've never made the case that Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11".....

Shall I edit that video and and post his 20 seconds of stupidity as "definitive proof" that the official 9/11 report was a hoax and that Bin Laden had nothing to do with it? Are we to believe that his Freudian Slip is showing and that this whole Iraq thing was just for shits and giggles? Or did he suffer from jet lag and not enough coffee that morning?

It's about as substantive as your argument that a verbal gaffe brought on by being unexpectedly interrupted and "corrected" by an interviewer is proof O is a secret Muslim....

But I can accept you can retort "but he actually said "my Muslim faith"!

Blah blah blah, doesn't matter if it's out of context or not. What he said has nothing to do with context. The guy said he was one religion and the reporter had to actually correct the guy. It's alright you guys have made your excuses just as I thought you would.