Religious Bias Hate Crimes

[Deutschland über alles]

That sucks. Hope they catch those guys.

They did, right after it happened, then let them go, on their own(no bail, o.r.'d).
i do not understand how its possible.
they even had the kids blood on their clothes, their cigarette butts and beer bottles with their d.n.a. left at the crime scene.

[reelop19]

I'll be waiting here for a riot and Al Sharpton to say something.....oh wait that would be the other way around.

[markseven]

here is another report i found, there is a more detailed report of the crime and the suspects capture. the TORTURE went on for hours.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/white...ry?id=10784965

That sucks. Hope they catch those guys.

[Deutschland über alles]

here is another report i found, there is a more detailed report of the crime and the suspects capture. the TORTURE went on for hours.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/white-teen-attack-hate-crime/story?id=10784965

[joshh]

did anyone look at this link?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

these two guys were released from jail(on their own recognizance) "o.r.'d"
and the police didn't consider this a hate crime....HOW IN THE F**** IS THIS POSSIBLE?
why isn't Jesse Jackson there, yell'in, tell'in and smell'in?

That page has been disabled. Conspiracy??

[reelop19]

If I say I hate colored people am I racist against blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, or indians? I just want to be able to hate more specifically.

[Deutschland über alles]

did anyone look at this link?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

these two guys were released from jail(on their own recognizance) "o.r.'d"
and the police didn't consider this a hate crime....HOW IN THE F**** IS THIS POSSIBLE?
why isn't Jesse Jackson there, yell'in, tell'in and smell'in?

[z31maniac]

Opposition to hate crime laws

The U.S. Supreme Court unanimously found the St. Paul Bias-Motivated Crime Ordinance amounted to viewpoint based discrimination in conflict with rights of free speech because it selectively criminalized bias-motivated speech or symbolic speech for disfavored topics while permitting such speech for other topics.[53] Many critics further assert that it conflicts with an even more fundamental right: free thought. The claim is that hate-crime legislation effectively makes certain ideas or beliefs, including religious ones, illegal, in other words, thought crimes.[54][55][56][57][58][59][60]

In their book Hate Crimes: Criminal Law and Identity Politics, James B. Jacobs and Kimberly Potter criticize hate crime legislation for exacerbating conflicts between groups. They assert that by defining crimes as being committed by one group against another, rather than as being committed by individuals against their society, the labeling of crimes as “hate crimes” causes groups to feel persecuted by one another, and that this impression of persecution can incite a backlash and thus lead to an actual increase in crime.[61] Some have argued hate crime laws bring the law into disrepute and further divide society, as groups apply to have their critics silenced.[62] Some have argued that if it is true that all violent crimes are the result of the perpetrator's contempt for the victim, then all crimes are hate crimes. Thus, if there is no alternate rationale for prosecuting some people more harshly for the same crime based on who the victim is, then different defendants are treated unequally under the law, which violates the United States Constitution.[63]

[Vedubin01]

Ask your friends to rape your girlfriend, then ask her

Hate for my friends after they did such act? Not the actual rape itself is what you are saying?

[Massive Lee]

Can you tell us why you think rape is a hate crime?

Ask your friends to rape your girlfriend, then ask her

[Vedubin01]

Can you tell us why you think rape is a hate crime?

[Massive Lee]

Hmmm... Seems that FBI forgot to include misoginy in the hate crime list. Raping a woman is definitely a hate crime. Prostitutes being murdered also is misoginy. ;-)

[markseven]

if you look at the offenders though it says that..
By crime category
Crimes against persons
# 37.3 percent intimidated their victims.
# 36.7 percent committed simple assault.
so...they consider this a hate crime...ridiculous
simple assault=pushing=misdemeanor
intimidation=scarring=misdemeanor
these are hate crimes.
but this is not.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

Good point.

^^^Me too I would be interested by FBI's definition of hate crime.

The level of racism in the US is nothing compared to what's experienced in Europe. Or maybe it is more subtle...

Here's the FBI's definition:

"A hate crime, also known as a bias crime, is a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society that is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin."

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offen...ime/index.html

[Massive Lee]

^^^Me too I would be interested by FBI's definition of hate crime.

The level of racism in the US is nothing compared to what's experienced in Europe. Or maybe it is more subtle...

[Deutschland über alles]

if you look at the offenders though it says that..
By crime category
Crimes against persons
# 37.3 percent intimidated their victims.
# 36.7 percent committed simple assault.
so...they consider this a hate crime...ridiculous
simple assault=pushing=misdemeanor
intimidation=scarring=misdemeanor
these are hate crimes.
but this is not.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011994589_beating31m.html