FORBES controversial article: "How Obama Thinks"

[Maluco]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/how...l?hpid=topnews

in the end, one only needs to look at Obama and his administration to see reality. Take a step back from the article/story/op ed/whatever you want to label it, and draw your own conclusions. One can't expect democrats to necessarily agree with it because after all, this is how they operate. This is ideal in their minds...

Interesting that D'Souza claims that Obama's dreams, political ambitions, views and opinions all came from his father. Yet,

"The facts are also these: Obama Sr. abandoned the family when his son was 2, and the future president saw his father only one more time, during a visit in Hawaii when he was 10. Obama Sr. died in 1982." (from article in above post)

How could your entire political philosophy be based on someone you had spent no more than a few days with? (being under 2 yrs old doesn't count, toddlers can't even spell 'political', let alone know what it means)

Ever heard of Muslims? Christians? Musicians? etc? These people have never met those who influence the most fundamental aspects of their everyday lives but guess what...?


and there's this:

funny, the quote on the cover, hunh? *Oddly, some of us think it also tells us something about Obama.




*sarcasm

[omar85]

I wish this country could hit 88MPH and head directly into 12:00PM January 20, 2013.

are you excite for his reelection party?

[structured]

We should defend Obama and all the Democrats because they are doing such a great job. Lets see, it took 12 years (94-06) for the American public to be done with Republicans. The Democrats managed to completely alienate themselves in 4 (06-10). I say the math is clear. Americans are just stupid and don't understand that everything right now is super duper. That was sarcasm of course and Obama is a huge socialist no matter how that kenc dude wants to spin it.

Your statement is misleading, if not totally false. Or maybe I misunderstood.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

[Farbin Kaiber]

Serious, I'd think only knowing your Dad for a few days, but hearing oral tradition and word of mouth about his beliefs, one would spend their life striving to attain something they yearned for, acceptance and affection from their missing fatherfigure/male role model. This in and of itself is more than enough of a basis to accept the direction he has taken.

[KenC]

Serious, I'd think only knowing your Dad for a few days, but hearing oral tradition and word of mouth about his beliefs, one would spend their life striving to attain something they yearned for, acceptance and affection from their missing fatherfigure/male role model. This in and of itself is more than enough of a basis to accept the direction he has taken.

That seems like an pretty big assumption. His views coincide with that of the Democratic Party.

[Maluco]

That seems like an pretty big assumption. His views coincide with that of the Democratic Party.

as if that weren't bad enough...

[Farbin Kaiber]

That seems like an pretty big assumption. His views coincide with that of the Democratic Party.

Fair enough, that's why I said, "I'd think...", and maybe you are right, that IS where his views coincide, but where does his drive come from, and where are his morals directing from?

[joshh]

I'm laughing my ass off at the usual suspects that are crying about this piece well written and to the point.

It's not misleading in any way. The guy is spot on.

And if you read the memo from the White House about the Lockerbie bomber the White House was just fine with letting the guy go as long as he stayed in Scotland. You just can't argue that point at all.

[CorvallisBMW]

I'm laughing my ass off at the usual suspects that are crying about this piece well written and to the point.

It's not misleading in any way. The guy is spot on.

And if you read the memo from the White House about the Lockerbie bomber the White House was just fine with letting the guy go as long as he stayed in Scotland. You just can't argue that point at all.

Not well written.

Not to the point.

It is misleading.

He's off the mark by a mile.

Oh and please post this supposed memo that says the White House wanted him released. Because I've read the ACTUAL memo and it very, very clearly states, in several instances, that they are strongly opposed to him being released.

"The United States deeply regrets the decision," said the White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. "As we have expressed repeatedly to officials of the government of the United Kingdom and to Scottish authorities, we continue to believe that Megrahi should serve out his sentence in Scotland. On this day, we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live every day with the loss of their loved ones. We recognise the effects of such a loss weigh upon a family forever."

The secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, said: "The United States is deeply disappointed … Today, we remember those whose lives were lost on 21 December 1988 and we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live each day with the loss of their loved ones due to this heinous crime."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-scotland-usa-release

"The Obama administration told Scottish officials last August that, although it opposed any release of the Lockerbie bomber, it would rather see him released in Scotland than transferred to a Libyan prison, according to a secret memo obtained by The Sunday Times in London."

"According to The Sunday Times report, the Obama administration weighed in last year in the memo sent by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the U.S. Embassy in London, to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and other justice officials. In the memo, dated Aug. 12, LeBaron argued against the release."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/25/obama-administration-reportedly-backed-lockerbie-release-transfer-libyan-prison/

That last one is even from your favorite website, Fox News.

Care to bust out with your usual come-back of "Typical liberal lack of logic" and then proceed to use absolutely zero logic yourself, not even providing a shred of evidence to support your claims?

[markseven]

That seems like an pretty big assumption. His views coincide with that of the Democratic Party.

are you excite for his reelection party?

hehe.. yeah.

[87e30]

So you guys are comfortable just ignoring his past and saying that it's irrelevant?

That's just as absurd as saying he is shaped 100% from his father.

[CorvallisBMW]

So you guys are comfortable just ignoring his past and saying that it's irrelevant?

That's just as absurd as saying he is shaped 100% from his father.

Perhaps not irrelevant, but I would argue that it's insignificant. Again, he met the guy for what, a few days? I don't believe that he shaped his entire world and political views based on a few conversations with the guy back in the 70s.

As some people already pointed out, his views are consistent with those of the Democratic party.

[joshh]

Not well written.

Not to the point.

It is misleading.

He's off the mark by a mile.

Oh and please post this supposed memo that says the White House wanted him released. Because I've read the ACTUAL memo and it very, very clearly states, in several instances, that they are strongly opposed to him being released.

"The United States deeply regrets the decision," said the White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. "As we have expressed repeatedly to officials of the government of the United Kingdom and to Scottish authorities, we continue to believe that Megrahi should serve out his sentence in Scotland. On this day, we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live every day with the loss of their loved ones. We recognise the effects of such a loss weigh upon a family forever."

The secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, said: "The United States is deeply disappointed … Today, we remember those whose lives were lost on 21 December 1988 and we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live each day with the loss of their loved ones due to this heinous crime."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-scotland-usa-release

"The Obama administration told Scottish officials last August that, although it opposed any release of the Lockerbie bomber, it would rather see him released in Scotland than transferred to a Libyan prison, according to a secret memo obtained by The Sunday Times in London."

"According to The Sunday Times report, the Obama administration weighed in last year in the memo sent by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the U.S. Embassy in London, to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and other justice officials. In the memo, dated Aug. 12, LeBaron argued against the release."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/25/obama-administration-reportedly-backed-lockerbie-release-transfer-libyan-prison/

That last one is even from your favorite website, Fox News.

Care to bust out with your usual come-back of "Typical liberal lack of logic" and then proceed to use absolutely zero logic yourself, not even providing a shred of evidence to support your claims?

You can spin it all you want.

If they were against his release to that degree why in the world would they then say this...


"Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose," the memo reportedly said. "

So the first statement is obviously for PR purposes. To satisfy people like you into thinking they didn't want him released.

I can find all kinds of links that say they supported his release if you like. But the words in the memo itself speak the real truth of the White Houses feeling of his release.

[joshh]

Perhaps not irrelevant, but I would argue that it's insignificant. Again, he met the guy for what, a few days? I don't believe that he shaped his entire world and political views based on a few conversations with the guy back in the 70s.

As some people already pointed out, his views are consistent with those of the Democratic party.

Democratic party=Huge government, Healthcare control, Land entitlement, tax the people silly, Social Justice, open borders, gun control, twisting the Constitution....

Yeah he sure does.....

[Farbin Kaiber]

Perhaps not irrelevant, but I would argue that it's insignificant. Again, he met the guy for what, a few days? I don't believe that he shaped his entire world and political views based on a few conversations with the guy back in the 70s.

Keep in mind this is not some "guy", it's his absent father. Someone that left him. You are all looking this like adults, we are talking about the pliable mind of a "bastard" child. And, not just any child, but a black child, raised by white family, longing to find his true "identity".