FORBES controversial article: "How Obama Thinks"

[CorvallisBMW]

You can spin it all you want.

If they were against his release to that degree why in the world would they then say this...


"Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose," the memo reportedly said. "

So the first statement is obviously for PR purposes. To satisfy people like you into thinking they didn't want him released.

I can find all kinds of links that say they supported his release if you like. But the words in the memo itself speak the real truth of the White Houses feeling of his release.

I fail to see how direct, accurate quotes, taken in context, constitutes 'spinning'.

Yes they did oppose his release, over and over, in many public statements, memos and press releases. I've proven that time and time again, posting links to various news sources and proving undeniably that they did want to see a convicted terrorist released.

If you can't accept that, that's your problem.

And please, post these supposed memos that claim to support his release. You've mentioned them several times but have never actually shown them to anyone. Can we please see them?

[CorvallisBMW]

Keep in mind this is not some "guy", it's his absent father. Someone that left him. You are all looking this like adults, we are talking about the pliable mind of a "bastard" child. And, not just any child, but a black child, raised by white family, longing to find his true "identity".

How much can you learn about a man and his views on the world of politics from a few short conversations when you're 10 years old? Shit I hardly new what the word 'politics' meant when I was 10.

I'm not saying that his dad had zero influence on him, but to claim that Obama is trying his hardest to be an exact copy of his father is a hell of a stretch.

[ck_taft325is]

So you're claiming the President is illiterate and cannot read?

Furthermore, you seem to be blatantly ignoring the "Best Selling Novel" he wrote. In which he speaks candidly of his Father's influence on his life, views, morality, ect.

Either he's a liar or you're not being logical.

[Farbin Kaiber]

How much can you learn about a man and his views on the world of politics from a few short conversations when you're 10 years old? Shit I hardly new what the word 'politics' meant when I was 10.

I'm not saying that his dad had zero influence on him, but to claim that Obama is trying his hardest to be an exact copy of his father is a hell of a stretch.

My answer...

...you seem to be blatantly ignoring the "Best Selling Novel" he wrote. In which he speaks candidly of his Father's influence on his life, views, morality, ect.

His book, is not titled "Short Conversations of my Father", is it?

[ck_taft325is]

My answer...



His book, is not titled "Short Conversations of my Father", is it?

No but that would have almost made more sense by the sounds of it.

[Wiglaf]

This article looks like one of Josh's rants, just throwing in anything he can think of to bash him. The ground zero mosque thing made me lol, these assholes act like it was the president's idea just because he didn't step on the mayor's toes to deal with it. And the terrorist thing? Get a grip. Just admit that you love to demonize the guy and move on. It ain't gonna bring the stock market back.

Maybe we should elect people who have actually run successful businesses or companies, vs people who have spent their entire lives in the Academic sphere waxing poetic about how things should be.

Yeah like the last guy and his collection of failed oil companies?

[markseven]

Yeah like the last guy and his collection of failed oil companies?

Agreed.

Now how does that change the fact that Mr. Obama is not qualified?

[mar1t1me]

Agreed.

Now how does that change the fact that Mr. Obama is not qualified?

I am always curious about this idea of qualification. What should we really want? There is no answer a majority will ever agree upon, but for me, if I had to "build" a presidential candidate, I'd be looking for characteristics such as these:

• Deep reverence for intellectual curiosity.

• A record of good moral and ethical judgment, but no religious affiliations.

• Ability to see the micro as well as the macro when looking at situations.

• Untouchable by lobbyists-he/she must be totally free to act with the best interests of the public in mind, not just business and/or special interests.
• Incredible charisma. Regardless of party affiliation, the President must be able to speak convincingly to many audiences.

There are many others, but even after that short list, I can't imagine why any intelligent individual would want such a job given the challenges of having every single utterance politicized by an ever more divisive chorus.

[Wiglaf]

Agreed.

Now how does that change the fact that Mr. Obama is not qualified?

it doesn't really, but you're gonna have to crack open the history books to get a good example of this.

[reelop19]

You guys do realize that most small businesses fail and failure at something leads to learning your mistakes right? Obama hasn't had to be responsible for jack and now when he finally gets his opportunity to make mistakes its on a world wide scale. Bummer

[markseven]

it doesn't really, but you're gonna have to crack open the history books to get a good example of this.

Then why bring it up?

[BMWerke]

All everyone talks about is socialism socialism socialism, Obama is not a socialist. I does however seem that no matter what side he takes on what ever the topic is there is some waiting to question his ethics. Is you don't believe in socialism then don't sent your kids to school or call an ambulance when you crash your 325is around a pole and when it catches on fire from the gas leaking out don't let the fire trucks come. And technically you should be driving because insurance companies are based on socialism.

[Vedubin01]

All everyone talks about is socialism socialism socialism, Obama is not a socialist. I does however seem that no matter what side he takes on what ever the topic is there is some waiting to question his ethics. Is you don't believe in socialism then don't sent your kids to school or call an ambulance when you crash your 325is around a pole and when it catches on fire from the gas leaking out don't let the fire trucks come. And technically you should be driving because insurance companies are based on socialism.

Im guessing you went to a public school....

[z31maniac]

Al I does however seem that no matter what side he takes on what ever the topic is there is some waiting to question his ethics.

That's politics cheif.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I love the way Socialists have twisted the definition of Socialism to make people think it's soft and loveydovey.