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  • mar1t1me
    E30 Modder
    • Sep 2009
    • 863

    #121
    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    good idea lee
    the only thing that has worked to boost the economy is

    drumroll...................................


    tax cuts
    Do they? Have they ever?

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    • kronus
      R3V OG
      • Apr 2008
      • 13014

      #122
      Originally posted by gwb72tii
      good idea lee
      the only thing that has worked to boost the economy is

      drumroll...................................

      tax cuts
      Seriously?


      Man I guess we should just stop all that innovation and industry and business stuff, since it doesn't work.
      cars beep boop

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      • joshh
        R3V OG
        • Aug 2004
        • 6195

        #123
        Originally posted by mar1t1me
        Do they? Have they ever?


        Yeah and thanks to politicians for getting the ball rolling on this shitty economy.
        The guy is bitching that lower taxes do not increase revenue while refusing to use basic logic that it's not that simple. If he were to pull his head out of his ass and see the connection between the lower average income of the American worker, he'd see it's not a 1+1 equation.
        Lower taxes equaling higher tax collection to a point has proven to work. But the economy has to be strong to begin with. Not declining.
        Lowering taxes is a way to make a weak economy stronger but while average income is dropping it's a craps game. But yet again we do not have a need for more taxes, we have a need for less spending.
        The guy is all double talk. If we kept taxes higher like they were in 2000 what would the economy look like then? Does Government spending of our tax money make a strong economy or does letting the people keep more of their cash and spending it themselves make a strong economy?
        In other words what this guy is saying is if Government had more of our money the crash would never have happened....really? Do you actually believe that?
        Taking more money from people who are making less does what?
        Last edited by joshh; 12-24-2010, 12:00 AM.
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        "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

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        • joshh
          R3V OG
          • Aug 2004
          • 6195

          #124
          Originally posted by kronus
          Seriously?


          Man I guess we should just stop all that innovation and industry and business stuff, since it doesn't work.


          Larger Government does not equal innovation and industry.

          Oregon’s Vanishing Millionaires The Wall Street Journal Editorial December 21, 2010 Oregon raised its income tax on the richest 2% of its residents last year to fix its budget hole, but now the state treasury admits it collected nearly one-third less revenue than the bean counters projected. Th



          Oregon raised its income tax on the richest 2% of its residents last year to fix its budget hole, but now the state treasury admits it collected nearly one-third less revenue than the bean counters projected. The sun also rose in the east, and the Cubs didn't win the World Series.In 2009 the state legislature raised the tax rate to 10.8% on joint-filer income of between $250,000 and $500,000, and to 11% on income above $500,000. Only New York City's rate is higher. Oregon's liberal voters ratified the tax increase on individuals and another on businesses in January of this year, no doubt feeling good about their "shared sacrifice."

          Congratulations. Instead of $180 million collected last year from the new tax, the state received $130 million. The Eugene Register-Guard newspaper reports that after the tax was raised "income tax and other revenue collections began plunging so steeply that any gains from the two measures seemed trivial."

          One reason revenues are so low is that about one-quarter of the rich tax filers seem to have gone missing. The state expected 38,000 Oregonians to pay the higher tax, but only 28,000 did. Funny how that always happens. These numbers are in line with a Cascade Policy Institute study, based on interstate migration patterns, predicting that the tax surcharge would lead to 80,000 fewer wealthy tax filers in Oregon over the next decade.
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          "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

          ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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          • 87e30
            R3V Elite
            • Jul 2008
            • 5676

            #125
            flat tax. Generate more revenue, eliminate any guess work.
            Originally posted by z31maniac
            I just hate everyone.

            No need for discretion.

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            • joshh
              R3V OG
              • Aug 2004
              • 6195

              #126
              Originally posted by 87e30
              flat tax. Generate more revenue, eliminate any guess work.


              Problem with this is it would force Government to actually get on a budget...oh wait...
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              "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

              ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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              • gwb72tii
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2005
                • 3864

                #127
                Originally posted by mar1t1me
                Do they? Have they ever?
                did you read this analysis
                this simpleton, in his reading of AGI decreasing, says nothing about the dot com bubble bursting in 2000, causing a recession (wow, did AGI go down in a recession? go figure...). then he says nothing about the 911 caused recession (wow, did AGI continue going down? go figure....).
                look at his tables and what you see is the bush tax cuts helping grow incomes after the 911 shock. this author lacks credibility and knowledge.
                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                Sir Winston Churchill

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                • mrsleeve
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 16385

                  #128
                  Originally posted by 87e30
                  flat tax. Generate more revenue, eliminate any guess work.
                  would eliminate one of the biggest weapons, and tools of fear and intimidation the Feds have.


                  THE IRS................................that fact alone is why we will never have a simple, easy and 1 page tax code
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